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Ideas for Anaxarchus, Thomas Nagel and Jaegwon Kim

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16. Persons / B. Nature of the Self / 4. Presupposition of Self
We may be unable to abandon personal identity, even when split-brains have undermined it [Nagel]
     Full Idea: As a result of the evidence of split-brains, it is possible that the ordinary, simple idea of a single person will come to seem quaint some day, …but we may be unable to abandon the idea, no matter what we discover.
     From: Thomas Nagel (Brain Bisection and Unity of Consciousness [1971], p.164)
     A reaction: I'm not sure what grounds you can have for a claim that we can't abandon our current view of selves, even when the new reality will be utterly different. Rather conservative? I would expect future concepts to roughly match future reality.
If you assert that we have an ego, you can still ask if that future ego will be me [Nagel]
     Full Idea: The metaphysical ego, if it is a continuing individual with its identity over time, is just one more thing about which the same problem can be raised - will that ego still be me?
     From: Thomas Nagel (Subjective and Objective [1979], p.200)
     A reaction: You can worry too much about some philosophical questions. If it is me now, and it has continuing individual identity over time, I'm not going to lose sleep over the possibility that it might nevertheless somehow cease to be me. I'm overrated.
Personal identity cannot be fully known a priori [Nagel]
     Full Idea: The full conditions of personal identity cannot be extracted from the concept of a person at all: they cannot be arrived at a priori.
     From: Thomas Nagel (The View from Nowhere [1986], III.2)
     A reaction: However, if you turn to experience to get the hang of what a person is, it is virtually impossible to disentangle the essentials from the accidental features of being a person. How essential are memories or reasoning or hopes or understandings or plans?
The question of whether a future experience will be mine presupposes personal identity [Nagel]
     Full Idea: The identity of the self must have some sort of objectivity, otherwise the subjective question whether a future experience will be mine or not will be contentless.
     From: Thomas Nagel (The View from Nowhere [1986], III.3)
     A reaction: This sounds a bit circular and question-begging. If there is no objective self, then the question of whether a future experience will be mine would be a misconceived question. I sympathise with Nagel's attempt to show how personal identity is a priori.