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Ideas for Lynch,MP/Glasgow,JM, Roderick Firth and Jaegwon Kim

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18. Thought / A. Modes of Thought / 2. Propositional Attitudes
How do we distinguish our attitudes from one another? [Kim]
     Full Idea: How do you find out that you believe, rather than, say, doubt or merely hope, that it will rain tomorrow?
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.159)
     A reaction: There should be a special medal created for philosophers who ask reasonable questions which are impossible to answer. They are among the greatest discoveries.
18. Thought / A. Modes of Thought / 3. Emotions / a. Nature of emotions
Emotions have both intentionality and qualia [Kim]
     Full Idea: It has been customary to distinguish between two broad categories of mental phenomena, the intentional and the phenomenal, without excluding those that have both (e.g. emotions).
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Mind in a Physical World [1998], §4 p.101)
     A reaction: This has become the conventional modern account of the mind. It seems a little too simple to say that the mind is characterised by two clearcut phenomena like this. I suspect that his picture will be modified in time.
18. Thought / A. Modes of Thought / 4. Folk Psychology
Folk psychology has been remarkably durable [Kim]
     Full Idea: Commonsense psychology seems to have an advantage over scientific psychology: its apparent greater stability. Scientific theories seem to come and go.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.110)
     A reaction: This seems to make the assumption that the folk are in universal long-term agreement about such things, which seems doubtful. See Ideas 2987 and 3410.
Maybe folk psychology is a simulation, not a theory [Kim]
     Full Idea: There is the "theory" theory of commonsense psychology, and also a "simulation" theory, which says it is not a matter of laws, but of simulating the behaviour of others, using ourselves as models.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.123)
     A reaction: Using ourselves as models may be the normal and correct way to relate to people within our own culture, but we have to start theorising when we encounter (e.g.) suicide bombers.
A culture without our folk psychology would be quite baffling [Kim]
     Full Idea: A culture that lacked our folk psychology would be unintelligible to us, and its language untranslatable into our own.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.110)
     A reaction: Surely we can manage to discuss the processing life of a robot, without having to resort to anthropomorphic psychology? Its human-style behaviour will fit, but the rest blatantly won't.
Folk psychology has adapted to Freudianism [Kim]
     Full Idea: Freudian depth psychology has now almost achieved the status of folk psychology of the sophisticates.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.158)
     A reaction: You don't need to be a 'sophisticate' to laugh knowingly when someone makes an embarrassing Freudian slip. Terms like 'neurotic' are commonplace among modern folk.
18. Thought / B. Mechanics of Thought / 6. Artificial Thought / c. Turing Test
A machine with a mind might still fail the Turing Test [Kim]
     Full Idea: The Turing test is too tough, because something doesn't have to be smart enough to outwit a human (or even have language) to have mentality or intelligence.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p. 97)
     A reaction: Presumably an alien with an IQ of 580 would also fail the Turing test. Indeed people of normal ability, but from a very different culture, might also fail. However, most of us would pass it.
The Turing Test is too specifically human in its requirements [Kim]
     Full Idea: The Turing test is too narrow, because it is designed to fool a human interrogator, but there could be creatures which are intelligent but still fail the test.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p. 97)
     A reaction: I think the key test for intelligence would be a capacity for metathought. 'What do you think of the idea that x?' Their thoughts about x might be utterly stupid, of course. How do you measure 'stupid'?
18. Thought / C. Content / 5. Twin Earth
Two identical brain states could have different contents in different worlds [Kim]
     Full Idea: States that have the same intrinsic properties - the same neural/physical properties - may have different contents if they are embedded in different environments.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.146)
     A reaction: This is a way of expressing externalism. It depends what you mean by 'contents'. I struggle to see how "H2O" could be the content of the word 'water' among ancient Greeks.
Two types of water are irrelevant to accounts of behaviour [Kim]
     Full Idea: The difference in the two types of 'water' in the Twin Earth experiment seem psychologically irrelevant, for behaviour causation or explanation.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.203)
     A reaction: A rather important point. No matter how externalist you are about what content really is, people can only act on the internal aspects of it.
18. Thought / C. Content / 6. Broad Content
Content may match several things in the environment [Kim]
     Full Idea: If content is said to be 'covariance' with something in the environment, then the belief that there are horses in the field covaries reliably with the presence of horses in the field, but also the presence of horse genes in the field.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.192)
     A reaction: That's the end of that interesting proposal, then. Or is it? Looking at the field from a distance this is right, but down the microscope, the covariance varies. The theory lives on.
'Arthritis in my thigh' requires a social context for its content to be meaningful [Kim]
     Full Idea: The example of someone claiming "arthritis in my thigh" shows that the content of belief depends, at least in part but crucially, on the speech practices of the linguistic community in which we situate the subject.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.197)
     A reaction: Personally I find this social aspect to meaning to be more convincing that Putnam's idea that the physical world is part of meaning. It connects nicely with the social aspects of justification.
Content is best thought of as truth conditions [Kim]
     Full Idea: It is standard to take contents as truth conditions.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.203)
     A reaction: This tradition runs from Frege to Davidson, and has been extended to truth conditions in possible worlds. Rivals will involve intentions, or eliminativism about meaning.
18. Thought / C. Content / 7. Narrow Content
Pain, our own existence, and negative existentials, are not external [Kim]
     Full Idea: No external factors seem to be required for Fred's belief that he is in pain, or that he exists, or that there are no unicorns.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.198)
     A reaction: This is an extremely important observation for anyone who was getting over-excited about external accounts of content. Unicorns might connect externally to horns and horses.
Content depends on other content as well as the facts [Kim]
     Full Idea: An objection to the 'covariance' theory of content is that what you believe is influenced, often crucially, by what else you believe.
     From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.193)
     A reaction: I can't think of a reply to this, if the covariance theory is suggesting that content just IS covariance of mental states with the environment. Externalism says that mind extends into the world.