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14043 | The void cannot interact, but just gives the possibility of motion [Epicurus] |
Full Idea: The void can neither act nor be acted upon but merely provides the possibility of motion through itself for bodies. | |
From: Epicurus (Letter to Herodotus [c.293 BCE], 67) | |
A reaction: Epicurus follows this with the anti-dualist Idea 14042, but he is at least offering the notion of something which exists without powers of causal interaction. Does space undermine the causal criterion for existence? |
14031 | Space must exist, since movement is obvious, and there must be somewhere to move in [Epicurus] |
Full Idea: If there did not exist that which we call void and space and intangible nature, bodies would not have any place to be in or move through, as they obviously do move. | |
From: Epicurus (Letter to Herodotus [c.293 BCE], 40) | |
A reaction: The observation that 'they obviously do move' must be aimed at followers of Parmenides. The idea of the void seems to contain a Newtonian commitment to absolute space. |
14525 | Stoics say time is incorporeal and self-sufficient; Epicurus says it is a property of properties of things [Epicurus] |
Full Idea: Stoics posited that time is an incorporeal which is conceived of all by itself, while Epicurus thinks that it is an accident of certain things, ...and he called in a property of properties. | |
From: Epicurus (fragments/reports [c.289 BCE]) | |
A reaction: [Source Sextus 'Adversus Mathematicos' 10.219-227] |
14051 | A cosmos is a collection of stars and an earth, with some sort of boundary, movement and shape [Epicurus] |
Full Idea: A cosmos is a circumscribed portion of the heavens containing stars and an earth; it is separated from the unlimited, with a boundary which is rare or dense; it is revolving or stationary; it is round or triangular, or some shape. All these are possible. | |
From: Epicurus (Letter to Pythocles [c.292 BCE], 88) | |
A reaction: Notice that there seem to exist the 'heavens' which extend beyond the cosmos. See Idea 14036, saying that there are many other cosmoi in the heavens. |
14036 | There are endless cosmoi, some like and some unlike this one [Epicurus] |
Full Idea: There is an unlimited number of cosmoi, and some are similar to this one and some are dissimilar. | |
From: Epicurus (Letter to Herodotus [c.293 BCE], 45) |