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Ideas for Lynch,MP/Glasgow,JM, Jonathan Barnes and Friedrich Nietzsche

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3. Truth / A. Truth Problems / 3. Value of Truth
Truth finds fewest champions not when it is dangerous, but when it is boring [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: The champions of truth are hardest to find, not when it is dangerous to tell it, but rather when it is boring.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Human, All Too Human [1878], 506)
Why should truth be omnipotent? It is enough that it is very powerful [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: I have no idea why the dictatorship and omnipotence of truth would be desirable; it's sufficient for me that it has great power.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], §507)
     A reaction: I once heard a philosopher (at Essex University) assert that truth is the only value, which was interesting. Nietzsche actually wants to endorse the value of lies and deceptions, like the 'noble lie' in Plato's Republic.
Is the will to truth the desire to avoid deception? [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: This unconditional will to truth: what is it? Is it the will not to let oneself be deceived? Is it the will not to deceive?
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (The Gay (Joyful) Science [1882], §344)
     A reaction: He is hunting for the evolutionary origin of the love of truth, in the needs of a community. In that sense, I would have thought it was just the pressure to get the facts right, because error is dangerous. Nice thought, though.
I tell the truth, even if it is repulsive [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: As a man I tell the truth, even the repulsive ones.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1881-82 [1882], 12[86])
     A reaction: I wonder if even Nietzsche had his limits. He is quite coy about sexual matters, for example, before Freud and various sexual revolutions. To ruthlessly tell difficult truths strikes me as a scientific approach to the world.
The pain in truth is when it destroys a belief [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: The truth hurts because it destroys a belief: not in itself.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1881-82 [1882], 9[48])
     A reaction: There are hideous events, about which it can be dreadful to learn the truth, but the unpleasantness is in the fact, not in the truth of the fact. So, yes.
Why do we want truth, rather than falsehood or ignorance? The value of truth is a problem [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: What really is it in us that wants 'the truth'? ...Granted we want truth: why not rather untruth? And uncertainty? Even ignorance? The problem of the value of truth stepped before us.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Beyond Good and Evil [1886], §001)
     A reaction: I think this is one of the great moments in philosophy, when something that has been taken for granted, as a kind of mantra, is suddenly looked in the face and challenged. Truth at all costs? What sacrifices would you make for truth?
What is the search for truth if it isn't moral? [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: What is searching for truth, truthfulness, honesty if not something moral?
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1885-86 [1886], 35[05])
     A reaction: Feels right to me. It might be an effect of the virtue of respect. If you respect a person you tell them the truth (assuming they want the truth). Lying to someone is a sort of contempt.
Like all philosophers, I love truth [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: I, too, love truth, like all philosophers.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1885-86 [1886], 37[02])
     A reaction: Please pay attention to this remark! His perspectivalism is not a denial of truth. It is an epistemological phenomenon, not a metaphysical one. The perspectives are the nearest we can get to truth. Humanity therefore needs teamwork.
Psychologists should be brave and proud, and prefer truth to desires, even when it is ugly [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: I hope [psychologists] are actually brave, generous, proud animals, who know how to control their own pleasure and pain and are taught to sacrifice desirability to truth, even a bitter, ugly, unchristian, immoral truth - Because there are such truths.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§01)
     A reaction: A nice expression of Nietzsche's values, which makes truth central, contrary to the widespread modern view that he was the high priest of relativism. If you think that, read him more carefully.
Truth was given value by morality, but eventually turned against its own source [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: Among the forces cultivated by morality was truthfulness: this eventually turned against morality, discovered its teleology, its partial perspective.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (The Will to Power (notebooks) [1888], §015)
     A reaction: Just as 'duty' is said to have withered in modern times, because its religious underpinning has been lost, so this gives an account of the decline of the value of truth. It is still left to us to assert the value of truth, perhaps as the only value.
Truth has had to be fought for, and normal life must be sacrificed to achieve it [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: Truth has had to be fought for every step of the way, almost everything else dear to our hearts, on which our love and our trust in life depend, has had to be sacrificed to it.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (The Anti-Christ [1889], 50)
     A reaction: This, in one of his final works, seems to contradict every idea that Nietzsche is the high priest of relativism about truth. He (and Foucault) and interested in the social role of truth, but are not so daft as to reject its possibility.
One must never ask whether truth is useful [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: One must never ask whether truth is useful.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (The Anti-Christ [1889], Fore)
3. Truth / A. Truth Problems / 4. Uses of Truth
'Truth' is the will to be master over the multiplicity of sensations [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: 'Truth' is the will to be master over the multiplicity of sensations.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (The Will to Power (notebooks) [1888], §517)
     A reaction: I suspect that this is a nice explanation of why we value truth, but says nothing at all about what truth actually is. I can't think of a better explanation of why we value truth.
Like animals, we seek truth because we want safety [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: Even that nose for truth, which is, at bottom, the nose for safety, human beings have in common with animals.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 026)
     A reaction: After Darwin, Nietzsche immediately saw that we need an account of humanity which is continuous with animals. The first step to physical security is ascertaining the physical facts. This idea rings true.
3. Truth / A. Truth Problems / 7. Falsehood
Convictions, more than lies, are the great enemy of truth [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Human, All Too Human [1878], 483)
     A reaction: Love this one. Especially in western democracies in the 2020s. If we value truth, we must be fallibilists.
To love truth, you must know how to lie [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: Inability to lie is far from being love of truth. ....He who cannot lie does not know what truth is.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 4.13.9)
Only because there is thought is there untruth [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: Only because there is thought is there untruth.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (The Will to Power (notebooks) [1888], §574)
     A reaction: A nicely oblique place to start in one's study of truth. Untruth is a very human contribution to the world, making virtually no sense of animal thought. Meta-thought seems to be required.
3. Truth / A. Truth Problems / 8. Subjective Truth
We don't create logic, time and space! The mind obeys laws because they are true [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: That which is logical, time, space would have to be produced by us: nonsense! When the mind obeys its own laws, this because they are actually true, true in themselves! …An error with respect to these truths avenges itself.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1881-82 [1882], 7[023])
     A reaction: So much for those who see Nietzsche as the embodiment of relativism. This is Nietzsche standing up to what I increasingly see as the pernicious influence of Kant. I agree with Nietzsche. Relations with the world keep our logic honest.
True beliefs are those which augment one's power [Nietzsche, by Scruton]
     Full Idea: For Nietzsche, the true belief is the one which augments one's power.
     From: report of Friedrich Nietzsche (The Will to Power (notebooks) [1888]) by Roger Scruton - Short History of Modern Philosophy Ch.13
     A reaction: Sounds suspiciously like pragmatism. Sounds suspiciously unlike truth as we know it. So many philosophers seem to me to confuse the concept of the truth itself with the ability of humans grasp the truth, or be interested in it. Truth is not part of us.
3. Truth / A. Truth Problems / 9. Rejecting Truth
The truth is what gives us the minimum of spiritual effort, and avoids the exhaustion of lying [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: What is true? Where an explanation is given which causes us the minimum of spiritual effort (moreover, lying is very exhausting).
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (The Will to Power (notebooks) [1888], §279)
     A reaction: Nietzsche is just being naughty here. Obviously lazy but intelligent people tell the truth, but to suggest that there is nothing more to truth means the collapse of language and thought. Which means no more reading Nietzsche…
3. Truth / D. Coherence Truth / 1. Coherence Truth
Judgements can't be true and known in isolation; the only surety is in connections and relations [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: An isolated judgement is never 'true', never knowledge; only in connection and relation of many judgements is there any surety.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (The Will to Power (notebooks) [1888], §530)
     A reaction: It actually seems impossible to state an isolated judgement in language without having a mass of presuppositions and beliefs to support it. I don't think the full holistic thesis about language follows, however.