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Ideas for Herodotus, Rom Harr and Bob Hale

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8. Modes of Existence / B. Properties / 4. Intrinsic Properties
Scientific properties are not observed qualities, but the dispositions which create them [Harré]
     Full Idea: The properties of material things with which the sciences deal are not the qualities we observe them to have, but the dispositions of those things to engender the states and qualities we observe.
     From: Rom Harré (Laws of Nature [1993], 2)
     A reaction: I take this to be the correct use of the word 'qualities', so that properties are not qualities (in the way Heil would like).
8. Modes of Existence / D. Universals / 1. Universals
Realists take universals to be the referrents of both adjectives and of nouns [Hale]
     Full Idea: On the traditional realist's view abstract qualities (universals) are the common referents of two quite different sorts of expression - of ordinary adjectives (predicates), and of abstract nouns referring to them.
     From: Bob Hale (Abstract Objects [1987], Ch.2.II)
     A reaction: This fact alone should make us suspicious, especially as there isn't an isomorphism between the nouns and the adjectives, and the match-up will vary between languages.
It is doubtful if one entity, a universal, can be picked out by both predicates and abstract nouns [Hale]
     Full Idea: The traditional conception of universals, resting as it does upon the idea that some single type of entity is picked out by expressions of such radically different logical types as predicates and abstract nouns, is of doubtful coherence.
     From: Bob Hale (Abstract Objects [1987], Ch.3 Intro)
     A reaction: A striking case of linguistic metaphysics in action. I don't believe in universals, but I don't find this persuasive, as our capacity to express the same proposition by means of extremely varied syntax is obvious. Is 'horse' an abstract noun?
If F can't have location, there is no problem of things having F in different locations [Hale]
     Full Idea: If Fs are incapable of spatial location, it is impossible for a and b to be at the same time in different places and yet be the same F.
     From: Bob Hale (Abstract Objects [1987], Ch.3.III)
     A reaction: A passing remark from Hale which strikes me as incredibly significant. The very idea of a 'one-over-many' is that there are many locations for the thing, so to conclude that the thing is therefore non-located seems to negate the original problem.
8. Modes of Existence / E. Nominalism / 1. Nominalism / c. Nominalism about abstracta
Objections to Frege: abstracta are unknowable, non-independent, unstatable, unindividuated [Hale]
     Full Idea: Objections to Frege's argument for abstract objects: that the objects would not have the right sort of independence; that we could have no knowledge of them; that the singular term statements can't be had; that thoughts of abstracta can't be identified.
     From: Bob Hale (Abstract Objects [1987], Ch.1)
     A reaction: [compressed] [See Idea 10309 for the original argument] It is helpful to have this list, even if Hale rejects them all. They are also created but then indestructible, and exist in unlimited profusion, and seem relative to a language. Etc!