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Ideas for Anon (Dham), Gottlob Frege and Nicholas of Autrecourt

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9. Objects / A. Existence of Objects / 2. Abstract Objects / a. Nature of abstracta
Not all objects are spatial; 4 can still be an object, despite lacking spatial co-ordinates [Frege]
     Full Idea: To give spatial co-ordinates for the number four makes no sense; but the only conclusion to be drawn from that is, that 4 is not a spatial object, not that it is not an object at all. Not every object has a place.
     From: Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884], §61)
     A reaction: This is the modern philosophical concept of an 'object', though I find such talk very peculiar. It sounds like extreme Platonism, though this is usually denied. This is how logicians seem to see the world.
9. Objects / A. Existence of Objects / 2. Abstract Objects / c. Modern abstracta
Frege says singular terms denote objects, numerals are singular terms, so numbers exist [Frege, by Hale]
     Full Idea: Frege's argument for abstract objects is: 1) singular terms in true expressions must denote objects, 2) numerals function as singular terms, 3) there must exist numbers denoted by those expressions.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Bob Hale - Abstract Objects Ch.1
     A reaction: [compressed] Given that most of the singular term usages can be rephrased adjectively, this strikes me as a weak argument, though Hale pins his whole book on it.
Frege establishes abstract objects independently from concrete ones, by falling under a concept [Frege, by Dummett]
     Full Idea: For Frege it is legitimate, in order to establish the existence of a certain number, to cite a concept under which only abstract objects fall, and in such a way guarantee the existence of the number quite independently of what concrete objects there are.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Michael Dummett - Frege Philosophy of Language (2nd ed) Ch.14
     A reaction: This approach of Frege's got into trouble with Russell's Paradox, which gave a concept under which nothing could fall. It strikes me as misguided even without that problem. I say abstracta are rooted in the concrete.
Logical objects are extensions of concepts, or ranges of values of functions [Frege]
     Full Idea: How are we to conceive of logical objects? My only answer is, we conceive of them as extensions of concepts or, more generally, as ranges of values of functions ...what other way is there?
     From: Gottlob Frege (Letters to Russell [1902], 1902.07.28), quoted by J. Alberto Coffa - The Semantic Tradition from Kant to Carnap 7 epigr
     A reaction: This is the clearest statement I have found of what Frege means by an 'object'. But an extension is a collection of things, so an object is a group treated as a unity, which is generally how we understand a 'set'. Hence Quine's ontology.
9. Objects / A. Existence of Objects / 3. Objects in Thought
For Frege, objects just are what singular terms refer to [Frege, by Hale/Wright]
     Full Idea: In Frege's 'Grundlagen' objects, as distinct from entities of other types (properties, relations, or various functions), just are what (actual or possible) singular terms refer to.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by B Hale / C Wright - Logicism in the 21st Century 2
     A reaction: This seems to be the key claim that results in twentieth century metaphysics being done through analysis of language. The culmination is, of course, a denial of metaphysics, and then an eventual realisation that Frege was wrong.
Without concepts we would not have any objects [Frege, by Shapiro]
     Full Idea: Frege is known for the idea that we do not have objects without concepts. Without concepts, there is nothing - no thing - to count.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Stewart Shapiro - Philosophy of Mathematics 8.4
     A reaction: A very helpful clarification. Thinking about the probable mental life of higher and lower animals, the proposal seems extremely plausible. Dogs have some concepts, slugs have none, so slugs do not exist in a world of objects. I like it.
The concept 'object' is too simple for analysis; unlike a function, it is an expression with no empty place [Frege]
     Full Idea: I regard a regular definition of 'object' as impossible, since it is too simple to admit of logical analysis. Briefly: an object is anything that is not a function, so that an expression for it does not contain any empty place.
     From: Gottlob Frege (Function and Concept [1891], p.32)
     A reaction: Here is the core of the programme for deriving our ontology from our logic and language, followed through by Russell and Quine. Once we extend objects beyond the physical, it becomes incredibly hard to individuate them.
Frege's 'objects' are both the referents of proper names, and what predicates are true or false of [Frege, by Dummett]
     Full Idea: Frege's notion of an object plays two roles in his semantics. Objects are the referents of proper names, and they are equally what predicates are true and false of.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (On Concept and Object [1892]) by Michael Dummett - Frege Philosophy of Language (2nd ed) Ch.4
     A reaction: Frege is the source of a desperate desire to turn everything into an object (see Idea 8858!), and he has the irritating authority of the man who invented quantificational logic. Nothing but trouble, that man.
Late Frege saw his non-actual objective objects as exclusively thoughts and senses [Frege, by Dummett]
     Full Idea: Earlier, Frege divided objects into subjective, actual objective, and non-actual objective; in the 'Grundgesetze' he emphasised logical objects; but in 'The Thought' the non-actual objects become exclusively thoughts and their constituent senses.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (The Thought: a Logical Enquiry [1918]) by Michael Dummett - Frege philosophy of mathematics Ch.18
     A reaction: Sounds to me like Frege was finally waking up and taking a dose of common sense. The Equator is the standard example of a non-actual objective object.
9. Objects / A. Existence of Objects / 5. Individuation / a. Individuation
Frege's universe comes already divided into objects [Frege, by Koslicki]
     Full Idea: Frege's universe is one that comes already divided into objects.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Kathrin Koslicki - Isolation and Non-arbitrary Division 2.1
     A reaction: Nice to have this spelled out. I get frustrated with metaphysics built on logic, with domains of objects, without worry about where all these objects came from. They're axiomatic, it seems. She cites Geach as having a universe of 'goo'.
9. Objects / B. Unity of Objects / 3. Unity Problems / e. Vague objects
The first demand of logic is of a sharp boundary [Frege]
     Full Idea: The first demand of logic is of a sharp boundary.
     From: Gottlob Frege (Grundgesetze der Arithmetik 2 (Basic Laws) [1903], §160), quoted by Michael Dummett - Frege philosophy of mathematics Ch.22
     A reaction: Nothing I have read about vagueness has made me doubt Frege's view of this, although precisification might allow you to do logic with vague concepts without having to finally settle where the actual boundaries are.
Every concept must have a sharp boundary; we cannot allow an indeterminate third case [Frege]
     Full Idea: Of any concept, we must require that it have a sharp boundary. Of any object it must hold either that it falls under the concept or it does not. We may not allow a third case in which it is somehow indeterminate whether an object falls under a concept.
     From: Gottlob Frege (Logic in Mathematics [1914], p.229), quoted by Ian Rumfitt - The Logic of Boundaryless Concepts p.1 n1
     A reaction: This is the voice of the classical logician, which has echoed by Russell. I'm with them, I think, in the sense that logic can only work with precise concepts. The jury is still out. Maybe we can 'precisify', without achieving total precision.
9. Objects / E. Objects over Time / 10. Beginning of an Object
Generation is when local motions aggregate to become a single subject [Nicholas of Autrecourt]
     Full Idea: In the case of natural things there is only local motion. When from such motion there follows an aggregation of natural bodies that are gathered to one another and acquire the nature of a single subject, this is called generation.
     From: Nicholas of Autrecourt (Tractatus [1335], Ch. 1)
     A reaction: This is explosive atomistic corpuscularianism, three centuries before its appointed date. He was duly suppressed. Can he give an account of the 'nature of a single subject' in this way?
9. Objects / F. Identity among Objects / 1. Concept of Identity
The idea of a criterion of identity was introduced by Frege [Frege, by Noonan]
     Full Idea: The notion of a criterion of identity was introduced into philosophical terminology in Frege's 'Grundlagen', and was strong emphasised in Wittgenstein's 'Philosophical Investigations'.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Harold Noonan - Identity §4
     A reaction: For Frege a thing can only have an intrinsic identity if it can participate in an equality relation. For abstract objects (such as directions or numbers) the relation is an equivalence. The general idea is that identical objects must relate in some way.
Frege's algorithm of identity is the law of putting equals for equals [Frege, by Quine]
     Full Idea: Frege's algorithm of identity is the law of putting equals for equals.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Willard Quine - Identity, Ostension, and Hypostasis 4
     A reaction: Quine, and most modern philosophers, seem to accept universal substitutivity as a sufficient condition for identity. But you then get the problem of coextensionality (renate/cordate), which can only be solved by introducing modality.
Frege was asking how identities could be informative [Frege, by Perry]
     Full Idea: A problem which Frege called to our attention is: how can identities be informative?
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (On Sense and Reference [1892]) by John Perry - Knowledge, Possibility and Consciousness §5.2
     A reaction: E.g. (in Russell's example) how is "Scott is the author of 'Waverley'" more informative than "Scott is Scott"? A simple answer might just be that informative identities also tell you of a thing's properties. "The red ball is the heavy ball".
9. Objects / F. Identity among Objects / 3. Relative Identity
Geach denies Frege's view, that 'being the same F' splits into being the same and being F [Perry on Frege]
     Full Idea: Frege's position is that 'being the same F as' splits up into a general relation and an assertion about the referent ('being the same' and 'being an F'). This is what Geach denies, when he says there is no such thing as being 'just the same'.
     From: comment on Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by John Perry - The Same F I
     A reaction: It looks as if you can take your pick - whether two things are perfectly identical, or whether they are identical in some respect. Get an unambiguous proposition before you begin the discussion. Identify referents, not kinds of identity, says Perry.
9. Objects / F. Identity among Objects / 5. Self-Identity
Frege made identity a logical notion, enshrined above all in the formula 'for all x, x=x' [Frege, by Benardete,JA]
     Full Idea: It was Frege who first made identity a logical notion, enshrining it above all in the formula (x) x=x.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (works [1890]) by José A. Benardete - Metaphysics: the logical approach Ch.9
9. Objects / F. Identity among Objects / 6. Identity between Objects
Identity between objects is not a consequence of identity, but part of what 'identity' means [Frege, by Dummett]
     Full Idea: Part of Frege's profound new idea of identity is that the criteria for identity of objects of a given kind is not a consequence of the way that kind of object is characterised, but has to be expressly stipulated as part of that characterisation.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Michael Dummett - Frege philosophy of mathematics Ch.13
     A reaction: This makes identity a relative concept, rather than an instrinsic concept. Does a unique object have an identity? Do properties have intrinsic identity conditions, making them usable to identify two objects. Deep waters. Has Frege muddied them?