Combining Philosophers

All the ideas for H.Putnam/P.Oppenheim, Peter John Olivi and Andrew Dobson

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14 ideas

8. Modes of Existence / A. Relations / 1. Nature of Relations
Relations do not add anything to reality, though they are real aspects of the world [Olivi]
     Full Idea: It does not seem that a relation adds anything real to that on which it is founded, but only makes for another real aspect belonging to the same thing. It is real since an aspect exists in re, not solely in the intellect, but it is not another thing.
     From: Peter John Olivi (Summa quaestionum super Sententias [1290], II.54), quoted by Robert Pasnau - Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671 12.4
9. Objects / C. Structure of Objects / 4. Quantity of an Object
Quantity is the quantified parts of a thing, plus location and coordination [Olivi]
     Full Idea: Quantity refers to nothing other than the parts of the thing quantified, together with their location or position, being extrinsically coordinated with each other.
     From: Peter John Olivi (Treatise on Quantity [1286], f. 49vb), quoted by Robert Pasnau - Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671 14.1
     A reaction: I'm not sure I understand 'extrinsically'. Is there some external stretching force? God spends his time spreading out his stuff? It is nice that being spread out isn't taken for granted. We take much more for granted than they did. Motion, for example.
Quantity just adds union and location to the extension of parts [Olivi]
     Full Idea: Quantity or extension adds absolutely nothing really distinct to the quantified matter or to the extended and quantified form, except perhaps the union and location and position of those parts.
     From: Peter John Olivi (Summa quaestionum super Sententias [1290], II:58,II:440), quoted by Robert Pasnau - Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671 14.1
     A reaction: Other views seem to say that the Quantity provides the extension, but he seems to take that as given.
14. Science / D. Explanation / 2. Types of Explanation / j. Explanations by reduction
Six reduction levels: groups, lives, cells, molecules, atoms, particles [Putnam/Oppenheim, by Watson]
     Full Idea: There are six 'reductive levels' in science: social groups, (multicellular) living things, cells, molecules, atoms, and elementary particles.
     From: report of H.Putnam/P.Oppenheim (Unity of Science as a Working Hypothesis [1958]) by Peter Watson - Convergence 10 'Intro'
     A reaction: I have the impression that fields are seen as more fundamental that elementary particles. What is the status of the 'laws' that are supposed to govern these things? What is the status of space and time within this picture?
24. Political Theory / C. Ruling a State / 4. Changing the State / b. Devolution
The environment needs localised politics, with its care for the land [Dobson]
     Full Idea: More localised politics helps to generate the disposition of care for the land which is a core feature of environmental politics.
     From: Andrew Dobson (Environmental Politics: very short intro [2016], 4)
     A reaction: I currently live in a time when localised politics is hugely devalued, because centralisation and privatisation are cheaper. It seems obvious that many human needs require a commitment to a particular locality.
24. Political Theory / D. Ideologies / 1. Ideology
An ideology judges things now, and offers an ideal, with a strategy for reaching it [Dobson]
     Full Idea: An ideology generally has three components: a judgement (usually critical) of how things are, a picture of the ideology's ideal society, and a strategy for progressing towards the ideal.
     From: Andrew Dobson (Environmental Politics: very short intro [2016], 2)
     A reaction: Conservatives tend to think we are already living in the ideal, and they reject most ideologies for being 'idealistic' (which presumably means delusional). I'm a fan of ideals, but combined with cool judgement.
24. Political Theory / D. Ideologies / 6. Liberalism / g. Liberalism critique
Ecologism is often non-liberal, by claiming to know other people's best interests [Dobson]
     Full Idea: Liberals say that their preferences are their interests, and resist the idea that anyone could know their interests better than they can. …To this degree, ecologism might be regarded as 'non-liberal'.
     From: Andrew Dobson (Environmental Politics: very short intro [2016], 2)
     A reaction: There are lots of other cases where liberal citizens may not realise their best interests, such as in the control of traffic, or of drugs.
24. Political Theory / D. Ideologies / 8. Socialism
Socialism can be productive and centralised, or less productive and decentralised [Dobson]
     Full Idea: Marx and his heirs promote a productivist socialism, but utopian socialists such as William Morris offer a less productivist and more decentralised form of socialism.
     From: Andrew Dobson (Environmental Politics: very short intro [2016], 2)
     A reaction: Modern history teaches us to be very cautious about the centralised version. Presumably you could be decentralised but still value production highly, even if it is a bit less efficient.
24. Political Theory / D. Ideologies / 12. Feminism
Difference feminists say women differ fundamentally from men [Dobson]
     Full Idea: Difference feminists argue that men and women are fundamentally different.
     From: Andrew Dobson (Environmental Politics: very short intro [2016], 2)
     A reaction: You can be significantly different without being 'fundamentally' different. Personally I don't see a huge difference, even though history may have greatly exaggerated and dramatised what differences there are.
24. Political Theory / D. Ideologies / 13. Green Politics
For the environment, affluence and technology matter as much as population size [Dobson]
     Full Idea: Although bare population figures are important for environmental impact, the level of affluence and the technology are also crucial factors.
     From: Andrew Dobson (Environmental Politics: very short intro [2016], 2)
     A reaction: It is worth noting that the technology can also have a good impact, though affluence is nearly always bad.
Ecologism says growth must be reduced, and efficiency is not enough [Dobson]
     Full Idea: A central belief of the ideology of ecologism is that aggregate growth must be reduced, and that this is very unlikely to be achieved by efficiency gains alone.
     From: Andrew Dobson (Environmental Politics: very short intro [2016], 2)
     A reaction: He argues that efficiency gains invariably lead to increased production. Trickle down economics needs huge growth to deliver a good life for the poorest sector. Ecologism has to be fairly egalitarian about wealth.
A million years is a proper unit of political time [Dobson]
     Full Idea: We must acknowledge that a million years is a proper unit of political time.
     From: Andrew Dobson (Environmental Politics: very short intro [2016], 5)
     A reaction: [He cites Colin Tudge] Such thinking is almost impossible, but owners of large aristocratic estates seem to have thought in centuries, because they were confident of continuity. The more we identify with all of humanity, the more this is possible.
We currently value the present fourteen times more highly than the future [Dobson]
     Full Idea: At current rates we seem to value present concerns as fourteen times more valuable than future concerns.
     From: Andrew Dobson (Environmental Politics: very short intro [2016], 2)
     A reaction: A sobering figure, which sounds about right. This directly influences how much we spend on future concerns. One thought is that future generations may be much more affluent than us!
27. Natural Reality / G. Biology / 5. Species
Things are limited by the species to certain modes of being [Olivi]
     Full Idea: A subject is limited by its species to certain modes of being.
     From: Peter John Olivi (Summa quaestionum super Sententias [1290], I:586-7), quoted by Robert Pasnau - Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671 13.2
     A reaction: I think this is so very the wrong way round. Species characteristics are generalisations about similar individual creatures. The 'species' doesn't do anything at all. It is a classification. See ring species, for example.