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3. Truth / A. Truth Problems / 1. Truth
The concept of truth was originated by the senses [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The concept of truth was originated by the senses.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], IV.479)
     A reaction: This is a refreshing challenge to the modern view of truth, which seems entirely entangled with language. Truth seems a useful concept when discussing the workings of an animal mind. As you get closer to an object, you see it more 'truly'.
6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 5. The Infinite / l. Limits
The modern idea of 'limit' allows infinite quantities to have a finite sum [Bardon]
     Full Idea: The concept of a 'limit' allows for an infinite number of finite quantities to add up to a finite sum.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 1 'Aristotle's')
     A reaction: This is only if the terms 'converge' on some end point. Limits are convenient fictions.
7. Existence / A. Nature of Existence / 3. Being / e. Being and nothing
An equally good question would be why there was nothing instead of something [Bardon]
     Full Idea: If there were nothing, then wouldn't it be just as good a question to ask why there is nothing rather than something? There are many ways for there to be something, but only one way for there to be nothing.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 8 'Confronting')
     A reaction: [He credits Nozick with the question] I'm not sure whether there being nothing counts as a 'way' of being. If something exists it seems to need a cause, but no cause seems required for the absence of things. Nice, though.
12. Knowledge Sources / D. Empiricism / 4. Pro-Empiricism
The senses are much the best way to distinguish true from false [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: What can be a surer guide to the distinction of true from false than our own senses?
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.700)
     A reaction: This doesn't say they are the only guide, which leaves room for guides such as what is consistent or self-evident or inferred. There is enough here, though, to show that the Epicureans were empiricists in a fairly modern way.
If the senses are deceptive, reason, which rests on them, is even worse [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The structure of your reasoning must be rickety and defective, if the senses on which it rests are themselves deceptive.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], IV.518)
     A reaction: This strikes me as one of the most basic tenets of empiricism. It denies the existence of 'pure' reason, and instead asserts that it is built out of complex and abstracted sense experience, which makes it ultimately a second-class citizen.
13. Knowledge Criteria / B. Internal Justification / 4. Foundationalism / c. Empirical foundations
The only possible standard for settling doubts is the foundation of the senses [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: If a belief resting directly on the foundation of the senses is not valid, there will be no standard to which we can refer any doubt on obscure questions for rational confirmation.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.422)
     A reaction: A classic statement of empiricist foundationalism. The Epicureans don't appear to have any time for a priori truths at all. I wonder if they settled mathematical disputes by counting objects and drawing diagrams?
13. Knowledge Criteria / D. Scepticism / 3. Illusion Scepticism
Most supposed delusions of the senses are really misinterpretations by the mind [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Paradoxical experiences (such a dreams and illusions) cannot shake our faith in the senses. Most of the illusion is due to the mental assumptions we ourselves superimpose, so that things not perceived by the senses pass for perceptions.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], IV.462)
     A reaction: Some misinterpretations of the senses, such as thinking a square tower round, are the result of foolish lack of judgement, but actual delusions within the senses, such as a ringing in the ears, or a pain in a amputated leg, seem like real sense failures.
14. Science / C. Induction / 1. Induction
Even simple facts are hard to believe at first hearing [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: No fact is so simple that it is not harder to believe than to doubt at the first presentation.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.1022)
     A reaction: Hence induction is just 'drumming it in' until you come to believe it. There are good evolutionary reasons why we should be like this, because we would otherwise believe all sorts of silly half-perceptions in the gloaming.
15. Nature of Minds / A. Nature of Mind / 1. Mind / d. Location of mind
The mind is in the middle of the breast, because there we experience fear and joy [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The guiding principle of the whole body is the mind or intellect, which is firmly lodged in the mid-region of the breast. Here is felt fear and alarm, and the caressing pulse of joy. Here, then is the seat of the intellect and mind.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.140)
     A reaction: Even by this date thinking people were not clear that the mind is in the brain. They paid insufficient attention to head injuries. The emotions are felt to have a location, but intellect and principles are not.
The mind is a part of a man, just like a hand or an eye [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: First, I maintain that the mind, which we often call the intellect, the seat of guidance and control of life, is part of a man, no less than hand or foot or eyes are parts of a whole living creature.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.95)
     A reaction: Presumably Lucretius asserts this because some people were denying it. Sounds like common sense to me. The only reason I can see for anyone denying what he says is if they are desperate to survive death.
15. Nature of Minds / A. Nature of Mind / 5. Unity of Mind
The separate elements and capacities of a mind cannot be distinguished [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: No single element [of the soul] can be separated, nor can their capacities be divided spatially; they are like the multiple powers of a single body
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.262), quoted by A.A. Long - Hellenistic Philosophy 2.7
     A reaction: It is interesting that this comes from someone with a strongly physicalist view of the mind (though not, if I recall, focusing on the brain). He is still totally impressed by the unified phenomenology of mental experience. He is an empiricist.
16. Persons / F. Free Will / 2. Sources of Free Will
The actions of the mind are not determinate and passive, because atoms can swerve [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The fact that the mind itself has no internal necessity to determine its every act and compel it to suffer in helpless passivity - this is due to the slight swerve of the atoms at no determinate time or place.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.294)
     A reaction: No one likes this proposal much, but it is very intriguing. The Epicureans had seen a problem, one which doesn't bother me much. If, nowadays, you are a reductive physicalist who believes in free will, you have a philosophical nightmare ahead of you.
17. Mind and Body / A. Mind-Body Dualism / 2. Interactionism
Only bodies can touch one another [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Nothing can touch or be touched except body.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.303)
     A reaction: This is the key objection to interactionism, and the main reason why the atomists have a thoroughly material view of the mind. It is an induction from a very large number of instances, but the argument is not, of course, conclusive.
17. Mind and Body / A. Mind-Body Dualism / 3. Panpsychism
The earth is and always has been an insentient being [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The earth is and always has been an insentient being.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.658)
     A reaction: The fact that Epicurus needs to deny this shows that some idea close to panpsychism must still have been around in his time. He is discussing gods at the time, so maybe pantheism was the view being attacked, but that is a subset of panpsychism.
Particles may have sensation, but eggs turning into chicks suggests otherwise [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: There is the possibility that particles have senses like those of an animate being as a whole, …but from the fact that we perceive eggs turning into live fledglings, we may infer that sense can be generated from the insentient.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.914)
     A reaction: He gives other arguments for his view. The egg example is not a strong argument, but is precisely our puzzle of how consciousness can emerge from the process of evolution, and natural selection makes dualism look unlikely.
17. Mind and Body / E. Mind as Physical / 1. Physical Mind
The mind moves limbs, wakes the body up, changes facial expressions, which involve touch [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Mind and spirit are both composed of matter, as we see them propelling limbs, rousing the body from sleep, changing the expression of the face, and guiding the whole man - activities which clearly involves touch, which involves matter.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.164)
     A reaction: This is the inverse of Descartes' interaction problem, and strikes me as a straightforward common sense truth. However, if you believe in spiritual gods, this gives you a model for the interaction (however mysterious) of matter and spirit.
Lions, foxes and deer have distinct characters because their minds share in their bodies [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Why are lions ferocious, foxes crafty, and deer timid? It can only be because the mind always shares in the specific growth of the body according to its seed and breed. If it were immortal and reincarnated, living things would have jumbled characters.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.743)
     A reaction: A nice argument which I have not encountered in modern times. Of course, even Descartes admits that the mind is intermingled with the body, but it seems that the essential character of a mind is dictated by the body.
17. Mind and Body / E. Mind as Physical / 2. Reduction of Mind
You needn't be made of laughing particles to laugh, so why not sensation from senseless seeds? [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: One can laugh without being composed of laughing particles, ..so why cannot the things that we see gifted with sensation be compounded of seeds that are wholly senseless?
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.988)
     A reaction: Lovely argument! You might feel driven to panpsychism in your desperation to explain the 'weirdness' of consciousness, but it would be mad to attribute laughter to basic matter, so comedy has to 'emerge' at some point.
21. Aesthetics / C. Artistic Issues / 5. Objectivism in Art
One man's meat is another man's poison [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: What is food to one may be literally poison to others.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], IV.638)
     A reaction: This seems to be the origin of the well-known saying. This is not relativism of perception, but a relativism of how individuals actually respond to the world. It sums up the position with, say, the operas of Wagner.
22. Metaethics / A. Ethics Foundations / 2. Source of Ethics / e. Human nature
Our bodies weren't created to be used; on the contrary, their creation makes a use possible [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Nothing in our bodies was born in order that we might be able to use it, but the thing born creates the use.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], IV.834)
     A reaction: This remark (strongly opposed to Aristotle's view of human function and nature) raises the obvious question of why the body is so very useful for staying alive. Most of its uses are not random. Lucretius would abandon this view if he read Darwin.
22. Metaethics / B. Value / 2. Values / e. Death
The dead are no different from those who were never born [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: One who no longer is cannot suffer, or differ in any way from one who has never been born.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.867)
     A reaction: There is a special kind of pain in being poor if you were once rich, which is not suffered by those who experience only poverty. Lucretius is right, but we are concerned with how we feel now, not with how we won't feel once dead.
22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / e. Role of pleasure
Nature only wants two things: freedom from pain, and pleasure [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Nature only clamours for two things, a body free from pain, a mind released from worry and fear for the enjoyment of pleasurable sensation.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.21)
     A reaction: I can't help agreeing with those (like Aristotle) who consider this a very demeaning view of human life. See Idea 99. Bentham agrees with Lucretius (Idea 3777). I think they are largely right, but not entirely. Other motives are possible than sensations.
26. Natural Theory / A. Speculations on Nature / 1. Nature
Nature runs the universe by herself without the aid of gods [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Nature is free and uncontrolled by proud masters and runs the universe by herself without the aid of gods.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.1094)
     A reaction: A nice remark. This apparent personification of nature implies the application of laws to an essentially passive reality. See Idea 5442 and Nature|Laws of Nature|Essentialism for a different view.
26. Natural Theory / A. Speculations on Nature / 5. Infinite in Nature
There can be no centre in infinity [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: There can be no centre in infinity.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.1069)
     A reaction: This is highly significant, because if we can establish that the universe is infinite (as Epicurus believes), it follows that the human race cannot be at the centre of it, as the Ptolemaic/medieval view proposed.
The universe must be limitless, since there could be nothing outside to limit it [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The universe is not bounded in any direction. If it were, it would necessarily have a limit somewhere, but a thing cannot have a limit unless there is something outside to limit it.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.959)
     A reaction: This is a subtler argument than the mere enquiry about why you would have to stop at the end of the universe. It still seems a nice argument, though Einstein's curvature of space seems to have thwarted it.
26. Natural Theory / A. Speculations on Nature / 6. Early Matter Theories / g. Atomism
Everything is created and fed by nature from atoms, and they return to atoms in death [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The ultimate realities of heaven and the gods are the atoms, from which nature creates all things and increases and feeds them, and into which, when they perish, nature again resolves them.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.46)
     A reaction: Sounds right to me. Nothing in modern particle theory and string theory has refuted this claim. But what makes the atoms move, and what makes them combine in an orderly way? Is the orderliness of atoms made of atoms? Essences?
If an object is infinitely subdivisible, it will be the same as the whole universe [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: If there are no atoms, the smallest bodies will have infinite parts, since they can be endlessly halved. ..But then there will be no difference between the smallest thing and the whole universe, as they will equally have infinite parts.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.620)
     A reaction: Another argument which remains effective even now. There must surely (intuitively) be more divisions possible in a large object than in a small one? Unless of course there were many different sizes of infinity…. See Cantor.
In downward motion, atoms occasionally swerve slightly for no reason [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: When atoms are travelling straight down through empty space by their own weight, at quite indeterminate times and places they swerve ever so little from their course.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.217)
     A reaction: Never a popular theory because it seems to breach the Principle of Sufficient Reason (Ideas 306 + 3646). This seems to be the beginning of a strong need for the concept of free will, and an underlying explanation. Most thinkers put mind outside nature.
26. Natural Theory / C. Causation / 9. General Causation / c. Counterfactual causation
Why does an effect require a prior event if the prior event isn't a cause? [Bardon]
     Full Idea: To say that a reaction requires the earlier presence of an action just raises anew the question of why it is 'required' if it isn't bring about the reaction.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 4 'Pervasive')
     A reaction: This is another example of my demand that empiricists don't just describe and report conjunctions and patterns, but make some effort to explain them.
26. Natural Theory / D. Laws of Nature / 7. Strictness of Laws
Nothing can break the binding laws of eternity [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Nothing has power to break the binding laws of eternity.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], 5.56)
     A reaction: This seems to be virtually the only remark from the ancient world suggesting that there are 'laws' of nature, so I'm guessing it is a transient metaphor, not a theory about nature. 'Even the gods must bow to necessity'.
27. Natural Reality / A. Classical Physics / 1. Mechanics / a. Explaining movement
If there were no space there could be no movement, or even creation [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: We see movement everywhere, but if there were no empty space, things would be denied the power of movement - or rather, they could not possibly have come into existence, embedded as they would have been in motionless matter.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.342)
     A reaction: This still seems a good argument, if reality is made of particles. People can move in a crowd until it becomes too dense.
Atoms move themselves [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Atoms move themselves.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.133)
     A reaction: Something has to move itself, I suppose, but then that could be psuché, giving us free will (see Idea 1424). Why does Epicurus need the 'swerve' if atoms are self-movers? See Idea 5708.
27. Natural Reality / A. Classical Physics / 2. Thermodynamics / d. Entropy
Becoming disordered is much easier for a system than becoming ordered [Bardon]
     Full Idea: Systems move to a higher state of entropy …because there are very many more ways for a system to be disordered than for it to be ordered. …We can also say that they tend to move from a non-equilibrium state to an equilibrium state.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 5 'Thermodynamic')
     A reaction: Is it actually about order, or is it just that energy radiates, and thus disperses?
It is quicker to break things up than to assemble them [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Anything can be more speedily disintegrated than put together again.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.558)
     A reaction: Clearly the concept of entropy was around long before anyone tried to give a systematic or mathematical account of it.
27. Natural Reality / C. Space / 6. Space-Time
The universe expands, so space-time is enlarging [Bardon]
     Full Idea: More and more space-time is literally being created from nothing all the time as the universe expands.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 8 'Realism')
     A reaction: [He cites Paul Davies for this] Is the universe acquiring more space, or is the given space being stretched? Acquiring more time makes no sense, so what is more space-time?
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 1. Nature of Time / c. Idealist time
We should treat time as adverbial, so we don't experience time, we experience things temporally [Bardon, by Bardon]
     Full Idea: Kant says that instead of focusing on the nouns 'time' and 'space', it would be more on target to focus on the adverbial applications of the concepts - that we don't experience things in time and space so much as experience them temporally and spatially.
     From: report of Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013]) by Adrian Bardon - Brief History of the Philosophy of Time 2 'Kantian'
     A reaction: Put like that, Kant's approach has some plausibility, given that we don't actually experience space and time as entities. To jump from that to idealism seems daft. Does every adverb imply idealism about what it specifies?
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 1. Nature of Time / i. Denying time
How can we question the passage of time, if the question takes time to ask? [Bardon]
     Full Idea: Even questioning the passage of time may be self-defeating: can any question be meaningfully asked or understood without presuming the passage of time from the inception of the question to its conclusion?
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 4 'Pervasive')
     A reaction: [He cites P.J. Zwart for this] We can at least, in B-series style, specify the starting and finishing times of the question, without talk of its passage. Nice point, though.
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 2. Passage of Time / a. Experience of time
We can only sense time by means of movement, or its absence [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: It must not be claimed that anyone can sense time by itself apart from the movement of things or their restful immobility.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.465)
     A reaction: This seems a remarkably Einsteinian remark, though he is only talking of the epistemology of the matter, not the ontology. We are not far from the concept of space-time here.
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 2. Passage of Time / b. Rate of time
What is time's passage relative to, and how fast does it pass? [Bardon]
     Full Idea: If time is passing, then relative to what? How could time pass with respect to itself? Further, if time passes, at what rate does it pass?
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 4 'Pervasive')
     A reaction: I remember some writer grasping the nettle, and saying that time passes at one second per second. Compare travelling at one metre per metre.
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 2. Passage of Time / e. Tensed (A) series
The A-series says a past event is becoming more past, but how can it do that? [Bardon]
     Full Idea: In the dynamic theory of time the Battle of Waterloo is become more past. If we insist on the A-series properties, this seems inevitable. But how can a past event be changing now?
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 4 'Reasons')
     A reaction: [He cites Ulrich Meyer for this] We don't worry about an object changing its position when it is swept down a river. The location of the Battle of Waterloo relative to 'now' is not a property of the battle. That is a 'Cambridge' property.
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 2. Passage of Time / f. Tenseless (B) series
The B-series needs a revised view of causes, laws and explanations [Bardon]
     Full Idea: If we accept the static (B-series) view, we have to reevaluate how we think about causation, natural laws, and scientific explanation.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 4 'Pervasive')
     A reaction: Any scientific account which refers to events seems to imply a dynamic view of time. Lots of scientists and philosophers endorse the static view of time, but then fail to pursue its implications.
The B-series is realist about time, but idealist about its passage [Bardon]
     Full Idea: The B-series theorist is a realist about time but an idealist about the passage of time. This is the Static Theory of time.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 4 'Reasons')
     A reaction: Note the both A and B are realists about time, and thus deny both the relationist and the idealist view.
The B-series adds directionality when it accepts 'earlier' and 'later' [Bardon]
     Full Idea: The static (B-series) theory, by embracing the relational temporal properties 'earlier' and 'later', adds a directional ordering to the block of events.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 5 'Time's')
     A reaction: I'm not clear whether this addition to the B-series picture is optional or obligatory. It is important that it seems to be a bolt-on feature, not immediately implied by the timeless series. What would Einstein say?
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 2. Passage of Time / g. Time's arrow
To define time's arrow by causation, we need a timeless definition of causation [Bardon]
     Full Idea: The problem for the causal analysis of temporal asymmetry is to come up with a definition of causation that does not itself rely on the concept of temporal asymmetry.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 5 'Causal')
     A reaction: This is the point at which my soul cries out 'time is a primitive concept!' Leibniz want to use dependency to define time's arrow, but how do you specify dependency if you don't know which one came first?
We judge memories to be of the past because the events cause the memories [Bardon]
     Full Idea: On the causal view of time's arrow, memories pertain to the 'past' just because they are caused by the events of which they are memories.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 5 'Causal')
     A reaction: How am I able to distinguish imagining the future from remembering the past? How do I tell which mental events have external causes, and which are generated by me?
The psychological arrow of time is the direction from our memories to our anticipations [Bardon]
     Full Idea: The psychological arrow of time refers to the familiar fact that that we remember (and never anticipate) the past, and anticipate (but never remember) the future.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 5 'Psychological')
     A reaction: Bardon rejects this on the grounds that the psychology is obviously the result of the actual order of events. Otherwise time's arrow would just result from the luck of how we individually experience things.
The direction of entropy is probabilistic, not necessary, so cannot be identical to time's arrow [Bardon]
     Full Idea: The coincidence of thermodynamic direction and the direction of time is striking, but they can't be one and the same because the thermodynamic law is merely probabilistic. Orderliness could increase, but it is highly improbable
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 5 'Thermodynamic')
     A reaction: This seems to be persuasive grounds for rejecting thermodynamics as the explanation of time's arrow.
It is arbitrary to reverse time in a more orderly universe, but not in a sub-system of it [Bardon]
     Full Idea: It would seem arbitrary to say that the direction of time is reversed if the whole universe becomes more orderly, but it isn't reversed for any particular sub-system that becomes more orderly.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 5 'Thermodynamic')
     A reaction: The thought is that if time's arrow depends on entropy, then the arrow must reverse if entropy were to reverse (however unlikely).
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 2. Passage of Time / h. Change in time
It seems hard to understand change without understanding time first [Bardon]
     Full Idea: It is very tough to see how we could understand what change is without understanding what time is.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], Intro)
     A reaction: This thought is aimed at those who are hoping to define time in terms of change. My working assumption is that time must be a primitive concept in any metaphysics.
We experience static states (while walking round a house) and observe change (ship leaving dock) [Bardon]
     Full Idea: We make a fundamental distinction between perceptions of static states and dynamic processes, …such as walking around a house, and watching a ship leave dock.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 2 'Kantian')
     A reaction: This seems to be a fundamental aspect of our mind, rather than of the raw experience (slightly supporting Kant). In both cases we experience a changing sequence, but we have two different interpretations of them.
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 2. Passage of Time / i. Time and motion
The motion of a thing should be a fact in the present moment [Bardon]
     Full Idea: Whether or not something is in motion should be a fact about that thing now, not a fact about the thing in its past or in its future.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 1 'Arrow')
     A reaction: This is one of the present moment, in which nothing can occur if its magnitude is infinitely small. I have no solution to this problem.
Experiences of motion may be overlapping, thus stretching out the experience [Bardon]
     Full Idea: Experience itself may be constituted by overlapping, very brief, but temporally extended, acts of awareness, each of which encompassesa temporally extended streeeeetch of perceived events.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 2 'Realism')
     A reaction: [cites Barry Dainton 2000] I think this sounds better than Russell's suggestion, though along the same lines. I take all brain events to be a sort of memory, briefly retaining their experience. Very fast events blur because of overload.
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 2. Passage of Time / j. Time travel
At least eternal time gives time travellers a possible destination [Bardon]
     Full Idea: If all past, present and future events timelessly coexist, then at least there is a potential destination for the time traveller. …The Presentist treats past and future events as nonexistent, so there is no place for the time traveller to go.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 6 'Fictional')
     A reaction: Not a good reason to believe in the eternal block of time, of course. The growing block has a past which can be visited, but no future.
Time travel is not a paradox if we include it in the eternal continuum of events [Bardon]
     Full Idea: As long as we understand any time travel events to be timelessly included in the history of the world, and thus as part of the fixed continuum of events, time travel need not give rise to paradox.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], 6 'Time travel')
     A reaction: This would presumably block going back and killing your own grandparent.
27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 3. Parts of Time / d. Measuring time
We use calendars for the order of events, and clocks for their passing [Bardon]
     Full Idea: Roughly speaking, we use calendars to track the order of events in time, and clocks to track changes and the passing of events.
     From: Adrian Bardon (Brief History of the Philosophy of Time [2013], Intro)
     A reaction: So calendars cover the B-Series and clocks the A-Series, showing that this distinction is deeply embedded, and wasn't invented by McTaggart.
27. Natural Reality / E. Cosmology / 1. Cosmology
This earth is very unlikely to be the only one created [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: It is in the highest degree unlikely that this earth and sky is the only one to have been created.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.1057)
     A reaction: I can only admire the science fiction imagination of this, which roughly agrees with the assessment of modern cosmologists. We think imagination was cramped in the ancient world, and now wanders free - but that is not so.
27. Natural Reality / E. Cosmology / 2. Eternal Universe
Nothing can be created by divine power out of nothing [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: In studying the workings of nature, our starting-point will be this principle: nothing can ever be created by divine power out of nothing.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.152)
     A reaction: This claim seems to cry out for a bit of empiricist caution. What observation has convinced Lucretius that creation out of nothing is impossible? The early Christians switched to the view that divine creation is 'ex nihilo' - out of nothing.
28. God / B. Proving God / 3. Proofs of Evidence / a. Cosmological Proof
If matter wasn't everlasting, everything would have disappeared by now [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: If the matter in things had not been everlasting, everything by now would have gone back to nothing, and the things we see would be the product of rebirth out of nothing.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], I.544)
     A reaction: See Idea 1431, which is Aquinas's Third Way of proving God. Aquinas thinks there must be a necessary being outside of the system, but Lucretius thinks there must be some necessary existence within the system (as Hume had suggested).
28. God / B. Proving God / 3. Proofs of Evidence / c. Teleological Proof critique
The universe can't have been created by gods, because it is too imperfect [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The universe was certainly not created for us by divine power: it is so full of imperfections.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.180)
     A reaction: This is certainly a problem if God is 'supremely perfect', as Descartes proposed, because then the universe would also have to be supremely perfect. See Idea 2114 for a possible answer from Leibniz. Hume agrees with Epicurus about design.
28. God / C. Attitudes to God / 3. Deism
Gods are tranquil and aloof, and have no need of or interest in us [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The nature of deity is to enjoy immortal existence in utter tranquillity, aloof and detached from our affairs. It is free from all pain and peril, strong in its own resources, exempt from any need of us, indifferent to our merits and immune from anger.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.652)
     A reaction: This seems to be the seed of late seventeenth century deism - the idea of a Creator who is now absent, and ignores our prayers. At that time 'Epicurean' became a synonym for atheist, but Epicureans never quite reached that point.
28. God / C. Attitudes to God / 5. Atheism
Why does Jupiter never hurl lightning from a blue sky? [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Why does Jupiter never hurl his thunderbolt upon the earth and let loose his thunder out of a sky that is wholly blue?
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], VI.400)
     A reaction: Nice question! It really doesn't take very much to see through superstition, and the fact that most people believed such things shows how staggeringly uncritical they were in their thinking, until philosophers appeared and taught them how to reason.
29. Religion / D. Religious Issues / 2. Immortality / a. Immortality
For a separated spirit to remain sentient it would need sense organs attached to it [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: If spirit is immortal and can remain sentient when divorced from our body, we must credit it with possession of five senses; but eyes or nostrils or hand or tongue or ears cannot be attached to a disembodied spirit.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.624)
     A reaction: This is a powerful argument against immortality. If you are going to see, you must interact with photons; to hear you must respond to compression waves; to smell you must react to certain molecules. Immortality without those would be a bit dull.
An immortal mind couldn't work harmoniously with a mortal body [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: It is crazy to couple a mortal object with an eternal and suppose that they can work in harmony and mutually interact.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.799)
     A reaction: An interesting thought, though not a terrible persuasive argument. A god would indeed be a bit restless if it were chained to a human being, but it would presumably knuckle down to the task if firmly instructed to do it by Zeus.
Spirit is mortal [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Spirit is mortal.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.542)
     A reaction: This is asserted at an historical moment when immortality is beginning to grip everyone's imagination.
The Egyptians were the first to say the soul is immortal and reincarnated [Herodotus]
     Full Idea: The Egyptians were the first to claim that the soul of a human being is immortal, and that each time the body dies the soul enters another creature just as it is being born.
     From: Herodotus (The Histories [c.435 BCE], 2.123.2)
29. Religion / D. Religious Issues / 2. Immortality / b. Soul
The mind is very small smooth particles, which evaporate at death [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: Since the substance of the mind is extraordinarily mobile, it must consist of particles exceptionally small and smooth and round, ..so that, when the spirit has escaped from the body, the outside of the limbs appears intact and there is no loss of weight.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.201)
     A reaction: Lucretius is wonderfully attentive to interesting evidence. He goes on to compare it to the evaporation of perfume. The fine-grained connections of the brain are not far off what he is proposing.
If spirit is immortal and enters us at birth, why don't we remember a previous existence? [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: If the spirit is by nature immortal and is slipped into the body at birth, why do we retain no memory of an earlier existence, no impress of antecedent events?
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], III.670)
     A reaction: Plato took the view that we do recall previous existence, as seen in our innate ideas. This problem forced the Christian church into the uncomfortable claim that God creates the soul at conception, but that it then goes on to immortality.