62 ideas
22140 | The greatest philosophers are methodical; it is what makes them great [Grice] |
Full Idea: The greatest philosophers have been the greatest, and most self-conscious, methodologists; indeed, I am tempted to regard the fact as primarily accounting for their greatness as philosophers. | |
From: H. Paul Grice (Reply to Richards [1986], p.66), quoted by Stephen Boulter - Why Medieval Philosophy Matters 3 | |
A reaction: I agree. Philosophy is nothing if it is not devoted to the attempt to be fully rational, and that implies consistency and coherence. If a thinker doesn't even try to be systematic, I would not consider them to be a philosopher. |
9955 | Contextual definitions replace a complete sentence containing the expression [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: A contextual definition shows how to analyse an expression in situ, by replacing a complete sentence (of a particular form) in which the expression occurs by another in which it does not. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.2) | |
A reaction: This is a controversial procedure, which (according to Dummett) Frege originally accepted, and later rejected. It might not be the perfect definition that replacing just the expression would give you, but it is a promising step. |
10031 | Impredicative definitions quantify over the thing being defined [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: When a definition contains a quantifier whose range includes the very entity being defined, the definition is said to be 'impredicative'. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.2) | |
A reaction: Presumably they are 'impredicative' because they do not predicate a new quality in the definiens, but make use of the qualities already known. |
15375 | If terms change their designations in different states, they are functions from states to objects [Fitting] |
Full Idea: The common feature of every designating term is that designation may change from state to state - thus it can be formalized by a function from states to objects. | |
From: Melvin Fitting (Intensional Logic [2007], 3) | |
A reaction: Specifying the objects sounds OK, but specifying states sounds rather tough. |
15376 | Intensional logic adds a second type of quantification, over intensional objects, or individual concepts [Fitting] |
Full Idea: To first order modal logic (with quantification over objects) we can add a second kind of quantification, over intensions. An intensional object, or individual concept, will be modelled by a function from states to objects. | |
From: Melvin Fitting (Intensional Logic [2007], 3.3) |
15378 | Awareness logic adds the restriction of an awareness function to epistemic logic [Fitting] |
Full Idea: Awareness logic enriched Hintikka's epistemic models with an awareness function, mapping each state to the set of formulas we are aware of at that state. This reflects some bound on the resources we can bring to bear. | |
From: Melvin Fitting (Intensional Logic [2007], 3.6.1) | |
A reaction: [He cites Fagin and Halpern 1988 for this] |
15379 | Justication logics make explicit the reasons for mathematical truth in proofs [Fitting] |
Full Idea: In justification logics, the logics of knowledge are extended by making reasons explicit. A logic of proof terms was created, with a semantics. In this, mathematical truths are known for explicit reasons, and these provide a measure of complexity. | |
From: Melvin Fitting (Intensional Logic [2007], 3.6.1) |
10098 | The 'power set' of A is all the subsets of A [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The 'power set' of A is all the subsets of A. P(A) = {B : B ⊆ A}. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) |
10101 | Cartesian Product A x B: the set of all ordered pairs in which a∈A and b∈B [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The 'Cartesian Product' of any two sets A and B is the set of all ordered pairs <a, b> in which a ∈ A and b ∈ B, and it is denoted as A x B. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) |
10099 | The 'ordered pair' <a, b>, for two sets a and b, is the set {{a, b},{a}} [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The 'ordered pair' <a, b>, for two sets a and b, is the set {{a, b},{a}}. The existence of this set is guaranteed by three applications of the Axiom of Pairing. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: See Idea 10100 for the Axiom of Pairing. |
10103 | Grouping by property is common in mathematics, usually using equivalence [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The idea of grouping together objects that share some property is a common one in mathematics, ...and the technique most often involves the use of equivalence relations. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) |
10104 | 'Equivalence' is a reflexive, symmetric and transitive relation; 'same first letter' partitions English words [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: A relation is an equivalence relation if it is reflexive, symmetric and transitive. The 'same first letter' is an equivalence relation on the set of English words. Any relation that puts a partition into clusters will be equivalence - and vice versa. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: This is a key concept in the Fregean strategy for defining numbers. |
10096 | Even the elements of sets in ZFC are sets, resting on the pure empty set [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: ZFC is a theory concerned only with sets. Even the elements of all of the sets studied in ZFC are also sets (whose elements are also sets, and so on). This rests on one clearly pure set, the empty set Φ. ..Mathematics only needs pure sets. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: This makes ZFC a much more metaphysically comfortable way to think about sets, because it can be viewed entirely formally. It is rather hard to disentangle a chair from the singleton set of that chair. |
10097 | Axiom of Extensionality: for all sets x and y, if x and y have the same elements then x = y [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The Axiom of Extensionality says that for all sets x and y, if x and y have the same elements then x = y. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: This seems fine in pure set theory, but hits the problem of renates and cordates in the real world. The elements coincide, but the axiom can't tell you why they coincide. |
10100 | Axiom of Pairing: for all sets x and y, there is a set z containing just x and y [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The Axiom of Pairing says that for all sets x and y, there is a set z containing x and y, and nothing else. In symbols: ∀x∀y∃z∀w(w ∈ z ↔ (w = x ∨ w = y)). | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: See Idea 10099 for an application of this axiom. |
17900 | The Axiom of Reducibility made impredicative definitions possible [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The Axiom of Reducibility ...had the effect of making impredicative definitions possible. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) |
10109 | ZFC can prove that there is no set corresponding to the concept 'set' [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: Sets, unlike extensions, fail to correspond to all concepts. We can prove in ZFC that there is no set corresponding to the concept 'set' - that is, there is no set of all sets. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.4) | |
A reaction: This is rather an important point for Frege. However, all concepts have extensions, but they may be proper classes, rather than precisely defined sets. |
10108 | As a reduction of arithmetic, set theory is not fully general, and so not logical [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The problem with reducing arithmetic to ZFC is not that this theory is inconsistent (as far as we know it is not), but rather that is not completely general, and for this reason not logical. For example, it asserts the existence of sets. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.4) | |
A reaction: Note that ZFC has not been proved consistent. |
11026 | Classical logic is deliberately extensional, in order to model mathematics [Fitting] |
Full Idea: Mathematics is typically extensional throughout (we write 3+2=2+3 despite the two terms having different meanings). ..Classical first-order logic is extensional by design since it primarily evolved to model the reasoning of mathematics. | |
From: Melvin Fitting (Intensional Logic [2007], §1) |
10111 | Asserting Excluded Middle is a hallmark of realism about the natural world [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: A hallmark of our realist stance towards the natural world is that we are prepared to assert the Law of Excluded Middle for all statements about it. For all statements S, either S is true, or not-S is true. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.4) | |
A reaction: Personally I firmly subscribe to realism, so I suppose I must subscribe to Excluded Middle. ...Provided the statement is properly formulated. Or does liking excluded middle lead me to realism? |
11028 | λ-abstraction disambiguates the scope of modal operators [Fitting] |
Full Idea: λ-abstraction can be used to abstract and disambiguate a predicate. De re is [λx◊P(x)](f) - f has the possible-P property - and de dicto is ◊[λxP(x)](f) - possibly f has the P-property. Also applies to □. | |
From: Melvin Fitting (Intensional Logic [2007], §3.3) | |
A reaction: Compare the Barcan formula. Originated with Church in the 1930s, and Carnap 1947, but revived by Stalnaker and Thomason 1968. Because it refers to the predicate, it has a role in intensional versions of logic, especially modal logic. |
10129 | A 'model' is a meaning-assignment which makes all the axioms true [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: A 'model' of a theory is an assignment of meanings to the symbols of its language which makes all of its axioms come out true. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7) | |
A reaction: If the axioms are all true, and the theory is sound, then all of the theorems will also come out true. |
10105 | Differences between isomorphic structures seem unimportant [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: Mathematicians tend to regard the differences between isomorphic mathematical structures as unimportant. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: This seems to be a pointer towards Structuralism as the underlying story in mathematics. The intrinsic character of so-called 'objects' seems unimportant. How theories map onto one another (and onto the world?) is all that matters? |
10119 | Consistency is a purely syntactic property, unlike the semantic property of soundness [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: Consistency is a purely syntactic property, unlike the semantic property of soundness. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6) |
10126 | A 'consistent' theory cannot contain both a sentence and its negation [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: If there is a sentence such that both the sentence and its negation are theorems of a theory, then the theory is 'inconsistent'. Otherwise it is 'consistent'. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7) |
10120 | Soundness is a semantic property, unlike the purely syntactic property of consistency [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: Soundness is a semantic property, unlike the purely syntactic property of consistency. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6) |
10127 | A 'complete' theory contains either any sentence or its negation [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: If there is a sentence such that neither the sentence nor its negation are theorems of a theory, then the theory is 'incomplete'. Otherwise it is 'complete'. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7) | |
A reaction: Interesting questions are raised about undecidable sentences, irrelevant sentences, unknown sentences.... |
10106 | Rational numbers give answers to division problems with integers [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: We can think of rational numbers as providing answers to division problems involving integers. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: Cf. Idea 10102. |
10102 | The integers are answers to subtraction problems involving natural numbers [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: In defining the integers in set theory, our definition will be motivated by thinking of the integers as answers to subtraction problems involving natural numbers. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: Typical of how all of the families of numbers came into existence; they are 'invented' so that we can have answers to problems, even if we can't interpret the answers. It it is money, we may say the minus-number is a 'debt', but is it? Cf Idea 10106. |
10107 | Real numbers provide answers to square root problems [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: One reason for introducing the real numbers is to provide answers to square root problems. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: Presumably the other main reasons is to deal with problems of exact measurement. It is interesting that there seem to be two quite distinct reasons for introducing the reals. Cf. Ideas 10102 and 10106. |
9946 | Logicists say mathematics is applicable because it is totally general [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The logicist idea is that if mathematics is logic, and logic is the most general of disciplines, one that applies to all rational thought regardless of its content, then it is not surprising that mathematics is widely applicable. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.2) | |
A reaction: Frege was keen to emphasise this. You are left wondering why pure logic is applicable to the physical world. The only account I can give is big-time Platonism, or Pythagoreanism. Logic reveals the engine-room of nature, where the design is done. |
10125 | The classical mathematician believes the real numbers form an actual set [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: Unlike the intuitionist, the classical mathematician believes in an actual set that contains all the real numbers. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6) |
17899 | Second-order induction is stronger as it covers all concepts, not just first-order definable ones [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The first-order version of the induction axiom is weaker than the second-order, because the latter applies to all concepts, but the first-order applies only to concepts definable by a formula in the first-order language of number theory. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7 n7) |
10128 | The Incompleteness proofs use arithmetic to talk about formal arithmetic [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The idea behind the proofs of the Incompleteness Theorems is to use the language of Peano Arithmetic to talk about the formal system of Peano Arithmetic itself. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7) | |
A reaction: The mechanism used is to assign a Gödel Number to every possible formula, so that all reasonings become instances of arithmetic. |
17902 | A successor is the union of a set with its singleton [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: For any set x, we define the 'successor' of x to be the set S(x) = x U {x}. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: This is the Fregean approach to successor, where the Dedekind approach takes 'successor' to be a primitive. Frege 1884:§76. |
10133 | Frege's Theorem shows the Peano Postulates can be derived from Hume's Principle [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The derivability of Peano's Postulates from Hume's Principle in second-order logic has been dubbed 'Frege's Theorem', (though Frege would not have been interested, because he didn't think Hume's Principle gave an adequate definition of numebrs). | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.8 n1) | |
A reaction: Frege said the numbers were the sets which were the extensions of the sets created by Hume's Principle. |
10130 | Set theory can prove the Peano Postulates [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The Peano Postulates can be proven in ZFC. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7) |
10089 | Talk of 'abstract entities' is more a label for the problem than a solution to it [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: One might well wonder whether talk of abstract entities is less a solution to the empiricist's problem of how a priori knowledge is possible than it is a label for the problem. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Intro) | |
A reaction: This pinpoints my view nicely. What the platonist postulates is remote, bewildering, implausible and useless! |
10131 | If mathematics is not about particulars, observing particulars must be irrelevant [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: As, in the logicist view, mathematics is about nothing particular, it is little wonder that nothing in particular needs to be observed in order to acquire mathematical knowledge. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002]) | |
A reaction: At the very least we can say that no one would have even dreamt of the general system of arithmetic is they hadn't had experience of the particulars. Frege thought generality ensured applicability, but extreme generality might entail irrelevance. |
10092 | In the unramified theory of types, the types are objects, then sets of objects, sets of sets etc. [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: In the unramified theory of types, all objects are classified into a hierarchy of types. The lowest level has individual objects that are not sets. Next come sets whose elements are individuals, then sets of sets, etc. Variables are confined to types. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: The objects are Type 0, the basic sets Type 1, etc. |
10094 | The theory of types seems to rule out harmless sets as well as paradoxical ones. [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The theory of types seems to rule out harmless sets as well as paradoxical ones. If a is an individual and b is a set of individuals, then in type theory we cannot talk about the set {a,b}. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: Since we cheerfully talk about 'Cicero and other Romans', this sounds like a rather disasterous weakness. |
10095 | Type theory has only finitely many items at each level, which is a problem for mathematics [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: A problem with type theory is that there are only finitely many individuals, and finitely many sets of individuals, and so on. The hierarchy may be infinite, but each level is finite. Mathematics required an axiom asserting infinitely many individuals. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) | |
A reaction: Most accounts of mathematics founder when it comes to infinities. Perhaps we should just reject them? |
17901 | Type theory prohibits (oddly) a set containing an individual and a set of individuals [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: If a is an individual and b is a set of individuals, then in the theory of types we cannot talk about the set {a,b}, since it is not an individual or a set of individuals, ...but it is hard to see what harm can come from it. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3) |
10134 | Much infinite mathematics can still be justified finitely [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: It is possible to use finitary reasoning to justify a significant part of infinitary mathematics. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.8) | |
A reaction: This might save Hilbert's project, by gradually accepting into the fold all the parts which have been giving a finitist justification. |
10114 | Bounded quantification is originally finitary, as conjunctions and disjunctions [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: In the first instance all bounded quantifications are finitary, for they can be viewed as abbreviations for conjunctions and disjunctions. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6) | |
A reaction: This strikes me as quite good support for finitism. The origin of a concept gives a good guide to what it really means (not a popular view, I admit). When Aristotle started quantifying, I suspect of he thought of lists, not totalities. |
10123 | The intuitionists are the idealists of mathematics [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: The intuitionists are the idealists of mathematics. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6) |
10124 | Gödel's First Theorem suggests there are truths which are independent of proof [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: For intuitionists, truth is not independent of proof, but this independence is precisely what seems to be suggested by Gödel's First Incompleteness Theorem. | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.8) | |
A reaction: Thus Gödel was worse news for the Intuitionists than he was for Hilbert's Programme. Gödel himself responded by becoming a platonist about his unprovable truths. |
13856 | Conditionals are truth-functional, but we must take care with misleading ones [Grice, by Edgington] |
Full Idea: Grice argued that the truth-functional account of conditionals can withstand objections, provided that we are careful to distinguish the false from the misleadingly true. | |
From: report of H. Paul Grice (Logic and Conversation [1975]) by Dorothy Edgington - Do Conditionals Have Truth Conditions? 2 |
8948 | The odd truth table for material conditionals is explained by conversational conventions [Grice, by Fisher] |
Full Idea: According to Grice, it is the rules that govern conversation beyond the merely logical that account for the counter-intuitiveness of the truth table for the material conditional. | |
From: report of H. Paul Grice (Logic and Conversation [1975]) by Jennifer Fisher - On the Philosophy of Logic 8.I | |
A reaction: There is a conversational rule which says that replies should normally relevant to context. It would be nice if logical implications were also relevant to context. |
13767 | Conditionals might remain truth-functional, despite inappropriate conversational remarks [Edgington on Grice] |
Full Idea: Grice defended the truth-functional account of conditionals, noting the gap between what we are justified in believing and what is appropriate to say. .But the problem arises at the level of belief, not at the level of inappropriate conversational remarks | |
From: comment on H. Paul Grice (Logic and Conversation [1975]) by Dorothy Edgington - Conditionals 17.1.3 |
10990 | Conditionals are truth-functional, but unassertable in tricky cases? [Grice, by Read] |
Full Idea: The 'conversational defence' of the truth-functional view of conditionals is that a conditional may not be assertible in difficult cases. | |
From: report of H. Paul Grice (Presupposition and Conversational Implicature [1977]) by Stephen Read - Thinking About Logic Ch.3 |
14277 | A person can be justified in believing a proposition, though it is unreasonable to actually say it [Grice, by Edgington] |
Full Idea: Grice drew attention to situations in which a person is justified in believing a proposition, which would nevertheless by an unreasonable thing for the person to say, in normal circumstances. I think he is right about disjunction and negated conjunctions. | |
From: report of H. Paul Grice (Logic and Conversation [1975]) by Dorothy Edgington - Conditionals (Stanf) 2.4 | |
A reaction: Edgington considers Grice's ideas of implicature as of permanent value, especially as a clarification of 1950s ordinary language philosophy. |
15377 | Definite descriptions pick out different objects in different possible worlds [Fitting] |
Full Idea: Definite descriptions pick out different objects in different possible worlds quite naturally. | |
From: Melvin Fitting (Intensional Logic [2007], 3.4) | |
A reaction: A definite description can pick out the same object in another possible world, or a very similar one, or an object which has almost nothing in common with the others. |
10110 | Corresponding to every concept there is a class (some of them sets) [George/Velleman] |
Full Idea: Corresponding to every concept there is a class (some classes will be sets, the others proper classes). | |
From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.4) |
7752 | Only the utterer's primary intention is relevant to the meaning [Grice] |
Full Idea: Only what I may call the primary intention of an utterer is relevant to the (non-natural) meaning of an utterance. | |
From: H. Paul Grice (Meaning [1957], p.47) | |
A reaction: This sounds okay for simple statements, but gets really tricky with complex statements, such as very ironic remarks delivered to an audience of diverse people. |
7751 | Meaning needs an intention to induce a belief, and a recognition that this is the speaker's intention [Grice] |
Full Idea: For a statement to have (non-naturally) meant something, not merely must it have been 'uttered' with the intention of inducing a certain belief, but also the utterer must have intended an 'audience' to recognise the intention behind the utterance. | |
From: H. Paul Grice (Meaning [1957], p.43) | |
A reaction: This is Grice's famous and distinctive theory of meaning. I am struck by the problem of a password, which seems to have a quite different intention from its literal meaning. Also a speaker with two different audiences and opposite intentions. |
7753 | We judge linguistic intentions rather as we judge non-linguistic intentions, so they are alike [Grice] |
Full Idea: To show that the criteria for judging linguistic intentions are very like the criteria for judging non-linguistic intentions is to show that linguistic intentions are very like non-linguistic intentions. | |
From: H. Paul Grice (Meaning [1957], p.48) | |
A reaction: This hint at the end of his paper is one of the key attractions of Grice's view. It offers an account of language that fits it into the world of animal communication and evolution. It never seems to quite capture the way meaning goes beyond intentions. |
22330 | Grice said patterns of use are often semantically irrelevant, because it is a pragmatic matter [Grice, by Glock] |
Full Idea: The slogan that meaning is use came under scrutiny by Grice's theory of conversational implicature. He said patterns of use shown in analysis were often semantically irrelevant, snce they are due not meanings of expressions but to pragmatic principles. | |
From: report of H. Paul Grice (Some Models for Implicature [1967]) by Hans-Johann Glock - What is Analytic Philosophy? 2.8 | |
A reaction: I think the simplest objection is that words only have use because they have a meaning; The most interesting part of pragmatics is what you DON'T say in conversation. |
18045 | Grice's maxim of quality says do not assert what you believe to be false [Grice, by Magidor] |
Full Idea: Grice's maxim of quality says one ought not to assert what one believes to be false. | |
From: report of H. Paul Grice (Some Models for Implicature [1967]) by Ofra Magidor - Category Mistakes 5.2 | |
A reaction: The obvious exception is irony, where are truth is asserted, but the listener is supposed to spot that you are not really asserting it. |
18044 | Grice's maxim of manner requires one to be as brief as possible [Grice, by Magidor] |
Full Idea: Grice's maxim of manner requires one to be as brief as possible. | |
From: report of H. Paul Grice (Some Models for Implicature [1967]) by Ofra Magidor - Category Mistakes 5.2 | |
A reaction: An alternative maxim of conversation is that there should not be long silences between contributions - which would probably result if the contributions are all curtly abbreviated. |
18046 | Grice's maxim of quantity says be sufficiently informative [Grice, by Magidor] |
Full Idea: Grice's maxim of quantity says 'make your contributions as informative as required'. | |
From: report of H. Paul Grice (Some Models for Implicature [1967]) by Ofra Magidor - Category Mistakes 5.2 | |
A reaction: Is the 'requirement' of informative for the speaker or for the listener? It is easy to image situations where, one way or the other, the two people don't agree about informativenss. |
10991 | Key conversational maxims are 'quality' (assert truth) and 'quantity' (leave nothing out) [Grice, by Read] |
Full Idea: Grice particularly identified two maxims as guiding conversation: the maxim of 'quality' (that one should assert only what one believes to be true and justified), and of 'quantity' (one should not assert less than one can). | |
From: report of H. Paul Grice (Presupposition and Conversational Implicature [1977]) by Stephen Read - Thinking About Logic Ch.3 | |
A reaction: I think it would be very foolish to boldly embrace the second maxim when talking to strangers. If white lies are occasionally acceptable, then what is the status of the first 'maxim'? Is it a moral maxim? |