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All the ideas for Thrasymachus, Jesus and Alexis de Tocqueville

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20. Action / C. Motives for Action / 3. Acting on Reason / b. Intellectualism
Jesus said learning was unnecessary, and only the spirit of the Law was needed [Jesus, by Johnson,P]
     Full Idea: Jesus was a learned Jew who said that learning was not necessary, who took the spirit and not the letter as the essence of the Law.
     From: report of Jesus (reports [c.32]) by Paul Johnson - The History of the Jews Pt II
     A reaction: This seems to me the perfect opposite of Socrates's intellectualism, offering the essence of morality as 'purity of heart', rather than careful thought about virtue or principles. On the whole I am with Socrates, but the idea is interesting.
22. Metaethics / B. Value / 2. Values / g. Love
Love your enemies [Jesus]
     Full Idea: Love your enemies.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 05.44
     A reaction: The germ of this idea had been around for several hundred years, but this very forceful statement is perhaps Jesus' most distinctive contribution to moral thought. It has the same clarion call as the Stoic demand for pure virtue. What about deserving?
Love thy neighbour as thyself [Jesus]
     Full Idea: Love thy neighbour as thyself.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 19.19
     A reaction: It would be stronger and better to say 'Love your neighbour, even if you don't love yourself'. Self-loathing and vicious hatred often go together. For once Jesus does not attach an instant heavenly reward to obedience of the command.
23. Ethics / B. Contract Ethics / 2. Golden Rule
Treat others as you would have them treat you [Jesus]
     Full Idea: All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, so ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 07.12
     A reaction: A problem which probably didn't occur to Jesus and the prophets is that of masochists. Personally I like buying philosophy books, but most people have no such desire. The Rule needs restricting to the basics of pleasure and pain.
23. Ethics / B. Contract Ethics / 4. Value of Authority
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy [Jesus]
     Full Idea: Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 05.07
     A reaction: This appears to be a straightforward application of social contract morality, with God playing the role of Hobbes' absolute monarch. It highlights the uncomfortable fact at the heart of Christian morality, that the motivation for altruism is selfish.
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 2. Elements of Virtue Theory / c. Motivation for virtue
Except ye become as little children, ye shall not enter heaven [Jesus]
     Full Idea: Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 18.03
     A reaction: The appeal of such purity of heart is undeniable, but essentially I dislike this remark. It is the opponent of education, reason, autonomy, responsibility, democracy and maturity. It confirms the view that religion is the opium of the people.
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 2. Elements of Virtue Theory / h. Right feelings
If you lust after a woman, you have committed adultery [Jesus]
     Full Idea: Whosoever look on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 05.28
     A reaction: Compare Democritus, Idea 503. Literally this idea seems absurd, but it is also at the heart of Greek virtue theory. Aristotle (Idea 34) defines virtue as an activity 'of the soul', not an action in the world. Excellence has become purity of soul.
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 3. Virtues / a. Virtues
Blessed are the meek; for they shall inherit the earth [Jesus]
     Full Idea: Blessed are the meek; for they shall inherit the earth.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 05.05
     A reaction: If they are truly meek, why would they want to inherit the earth? This is the classic statement of Nietzsche's 'inversion of values', where the qualities of a good slave are elevated above those of the greatest human beings.
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 3. Virtues / c. Justice
Don't resist evil, but turn the other cheek [Jesus]
     Full Idea: Ye have heard it said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth; But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil, but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 05.38-9
     A reaction: Compare Socrates, Idea 346. The viciousness of many Hollywood movies is that they set up a character as thoroughly evil so that we can have the pleasure of watching him pulverised. On the whole, Jesus gives bad advice. 'Doormats' in game theory.
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 4. External Goods / c. Wealth
It is almost impossible for the rich to go to heaven [Jesus]
     Full Idea: It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 19.24
     A reaction: Aristotle and others (Margaret Thatcher) have observed that you cannot practise charity if you are poor. Jesus implies that the human race should remain in poverty. No wonder autocratic medieval rulers taught Christianity to peasants. Cf. Matt 25.30.
24. Political Theory / A. Basis of a State / 1. A People / b. The natural life
Wherever there is a small community, the association of the people is natural [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: The village or township is the only association which is so perfectly natural that, wherever a number of men are collected, it seems to constitute itself.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.04)
     A reaction: Seems like a chicken and egg issue. I would have thought that association precedes the development of a village.
24. Political Theory / A. Basis of a State / 1. A People / c. A unified people
The people are just individuals, and only present themselves as united to foreigners [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: The people in themselves are only individuals; and the special reason why they need to be united under one government is that they may appear to advantage before foreigners.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.07)
     A reaction: I take this to be an observation on 1830s America, rather than a universal truth. It fits modern western societies rather well though.
24. Political Theory / A. Basis of a State / 2. Population / b. State population
Vast empires are bad for well-being and freedom, though they may promote glory [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: Nothing is more opposed to the well-being and the freedom of men than vast empires. …But there is a love of glory in those who regard the applause of a great people as a worthy reward.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.07)
     A reaction: Presumably the main the problem is the central dominance over distant colonies. There may also be some freedom in being distant from the centres, especially in 1830. The Wild West.
People would be much happier and freer in small nations [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: If none but small nations existed, I do not doubt that mankind would be more happy and more free.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.07)
     A reaction: In modern times many small states have appeared in Europe (in the Balkans and on the Baltic), and it looks to me a good thing. The prospect of Scottish independence may currently be looming, and De Tocqueville would approve.
24. Political Theory / B. Nature of a State / 3. Constitutions
In American judges rule according to the Constitution, not the law [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: The Americans have acknowledged the right of judges to found their decisions on the Constitution, rather than on the laws.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.05)
     A reaction: Obviously the Constitution is one short document, so the details must be enshrined in the laws (which presumably defer to the Constitution).
24. Political Theory / C. Ruling a State / 2. Leaders / b. Monarchy
A monarchical family is always deeply concerned with the interests of the state [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: The advantages of a monarchy are that the private interests of a family are connected with the interests of the state, …and at least there is always someone available to conduct the affairs of a monarchy.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.07)
     A reaction: The second one is not much of a reason! The same defence can be given for the dominance of the Mafia. His defences are deliberately feeble, I suspect. England had plenty of monarchs who showed limited interest.
24. Political Theory / C. Ruling a State / 2. Leaders / c. Despotism
Despots like to see their own regulations ignored, by themselves and their agents [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: In despotic states the sovereign is so much attached to his power that he dislikes the constraints even of his own regulations, and likes to see his agents acting irregularly.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.11)
     A reaction: A nice observation. What would Machiavelli say? At least the citizens can see where the real power resides.
24. Political Theory / C. Ruling a State / 2. Leaders / d. Elites
Aristocracy is constituted by inherited landed property [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: Land is the basis of an aristocracy; …it is by landed property handed down from generation to generation that an aristocracy is constituted.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.01)
     A reaction: Presumably there can be aristocrats by mere royal patronage, who have perhaps gambled away their land. They need protection by the other aristocrats.
24. Political Theory / C. Ruling a State / 4. Changing the State / a. Centralisation
In Europe it is thought that local government is best handled centrally [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: The partisans of centralisation in Europe are wont to maintain that the government can administer the affairs of each locality better than the citizens can do it for themselves.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.04)
     A reaction: In the modern UK we have lots of local government, which is thoroughly starved of funds by the central government. He is contrasting it with the strong local system in the U.S.
24. Political Theory / D. Ideologies / 5. Democracy / b. Consultation
An election, and its lead up time, are always a national crisis [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: The period which immediately precedes an election, and that during which the election is taking place, must always be considered as a national crisis.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.07)
     A reaction: Rousseau said something similar. Election day in modern Britain is very peaceful and civilised, but it used to be chaotic. The weeks preceding it are invariably nasty.
24. Political Theory / D. Ideologies / 5. Democracy / d. Representative democracy
Universal suffrage is no guarantee of wise choices [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: Universal suffrage is by no means a guarantee of the wisdom of the popular choice.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.11)
     A reaction: This was precisely Plato's fear about democracy. There seems no way at all of preventing the people from electing representatives on superficial grounds of personality.
25. Social Practice / A. Freedoms / 1. Slavery
Slavery undermines the morals and energy of a society [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: Slavery dishonours labour; it introduces idleness into society, and with idleness, ignorance and pride, luxury and distress.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.01)
     A reaction: A pretty feeble reason (in the 1830s) for disliking slavery. He seems only concerned with the adverse effects on the slave-owning society, and shows no interest in the slaves themselves.
25. Social Practice / A. Freedoms / 3. Free speech
The liberty of the press is more valuable for what it prevents than what it promotes [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: I approve of the liberty of the press from a consideration more of the evils it prevents than of the advantages it ensures.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.10)
     A reaction: He accepts the freedom of the press as inevitable in a democracy, but he found U.S. newspapers to be nearly as bad then as they are now.
25. Social Practice / B. Equalities / 1. Grounds of equality
It is admirable to elevate the humble to the level of the great, but the opposite is depraved [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: One manly and lawful passion for equality elevates the humble to the rank of the great. But there exists also a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.02)
     A reaction: There is a distinction in modern political rhetoric between 'levelling down' and 'levelling up'. Since levelling down is just destructive, and levelling up is unaffordable, it seems obvious that true equality needs to be a compromise.
25. Social Practice / B. Equalities / 2. Political equality
Equality can only be established by equal rights for all (or no rights for anyone) [Tocqueville]
     Full Idea: I know of only two methods of establishing equality in the political world; rights must be given to every citizen, or none at all to anyone.
     From: Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America (abr Renshaw) [1840], 1.02)
     A reaction: We may have a vague concept of 'natural' rights, but primarily they are a tool of social engineering. You could grant equal rights on inheritance, for example, which turn out in practice to hugely favour the rich.
28. God / A. Divine Nature / 6. Divine Morality / c. God is the good
No one is good except God [Jesus]
     Full Idea: Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God.
     From: Jesus (reports [c.32]), quoted by St Matthew - 01: Gospel of St Matthew 19.17
     A reaction: This remark raises the problem that if God is good, there must be some separate moral standard by which he can be judged good. What is that standard? It is related to the problem of whether Plato's Form of the Beautiful is itself beautiful.
28. God / C. Attitudes to God / 3. Deism
Clearly the gods ignore human affairs, or they would have given us justice [Thrasymachus]
     Full Idea: The gods pay no attention to human affairs; if they did, they would not have ignored justice, which is the greatest good for men; for we see that men do not act with justice.
     From: Thrasymachus (fragments/reports [c.426 BCE], B8), quoted by Hermias - Notes on Plato's 'Phaedrus' 239.22
29. Religion / B. Monotheistic Religion / 4. Christianity / a. Christianity
Jesus turned the ideas of Hillel into a theology reduced to its moral elements [Jesus, by Johnson,P]
     Full Idea: Jesus was a member of the school of Hillel the Elder, and may have sat under him. He repeated some of the sayings of Hillel, ...and turned his ideas into a moral theology, stripping the law of all but its moral and ethical elements.
     From: report of Jesus (reports [c.32]) by Paul Johnson - The History of the Jews Pt II
     A reaction: The crucial move, it seems to me, is to strip Judaism of its complexity, and reduce it to very simple moral maxims, which means that ordinary illiterate people no longer need priests to understand and follow it. Jesus was, above all, a great teacher.