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Single Idea 10540

[filed under theme 7. Existence / C. Structure of Existence / 7. Abstract/Concrete / a. Abstract/concrete ]

Full Idea

If abstractions were defined by whether they could affect human sense-organs, light-waves would be concrete but radio waves abstract.

Gist of Idea

We can't say that light is concrete but radio waves abstract

Source

Michael Dummett (Frege Philosophy of Language (2nd ed) [1973], Ch.14)

Book Ref

Dummett,Michael: 'Frege Philosophy of Language' [Duckworth 1981], p.480


A Reaction

This is a pretty good baseline example. No account should draw an abstract/concrete line through the electromagnetic spectrum.


The 26 ideas with the same theme [general ideas about the abstract/concrete border]:

Objects of ideas can be divided into abstract and concrete, and then further subdivided [Leibniz]
Frege refers to 'concrete' objects, but they are no different in principle from abstract ones [Frege, by Dummett]
We don't say 'red' is abstract, unlike a river, just because it has discontinuous shape [Quine]
We can only see an alien language in terms of our own thought structures (e.g. physical/abstract) [Quine]
We can't say that light is concrete but radio waves abstract [Dummett]
Ostension is possible for concreta; abstracta can only be referred to via other objects [Dummett, by Hale]
The concrete/abstract distinction seems crude: in which category is the Mistral? [Dummett]
We don't need a sharp concrete/abstract distinction [Dummett]
The distinction of concrete/abstract, or actual/non-actual, is a scale, not a dichotomy [Dummett]
Concrete objects have few essential properties, but properties of abstractions are mostly essential [Yablo]
We are thought to know concreta a posteriori, and many abstracta a priori [Yablo]
Possible objects are abstract; actual concrete objects are possible; so abstract/concrete are compatible [Fine,K]
The abstract/concrete boundary now seems blurred, and would need a defence [Shapiro]
Mathematicians regard arithmetic as concrete, and group theory as abstract [Shapiro]
Abstract/concrete is a distinction of kind, not degree [Burgess/Rosen]
Much of what science says about concrete entities is 'abstraction-laden' [Burgess/Rosen]
David's 'Napoleon' is about something concrete and something abstract [Brown,JR]
The abstract/concrete distinction is based on what is perceivable, causal and located [Hale]
Colours and points seem to be both concrete and abstract [Hale]
The abstract/concrete distinction is in the relations in the identity-criteria of object-names [Hale]
Token-letters and token-words are concrete objects, type-letters and type-words abstract [Hale]
Abstract entities don't depend on their concrete entities ...but maybe on the totality of concrete things [Szabó]
If 'concrete' is the negative of 'abstract', that means desires and hallucinations are concrete [Potter]
The cosmos is the only fundamental entity, from which all else exists by abstraction [Schaffer,J]
If concrete is spatio-temporal and causal, and abstract isn't, the distinction doesn't suit physics [Ladyman/Ross]
Concrete and abstract are too crude for modern physics [Ladyman/Ross]