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Single Idea 12

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / B. Value / 2. Values / i. Self-interest ]

Full Idea

Glaucon: with a ring of invisibility 'the just man would differ in no way from the unjust'.

Gist of Idea

If we were invisible, would the just man become like the unjust?

Source

Plato (The Republic [c.374 BCE], 360c)

Book Ref

Plato: 'Republic', ed/tr. Waterfield,Robin [OUP 1993], p.48


A Reaction

I think a highly altruistic person would behave well with the ring, but I'm sure Glaucon would claim that these habits would wear off after a while. But I doubt that.


The 18 ideas with the same theme [concern for ourselves, in the context of morality]:

Is it natural to simply indulge our selfish desires? [Plato]
If we were invisible, would the just man become like the unjust? [Plato]
Clever criminals do well at first, but not in the long run [Plato]
For Aristotle, true self-love is love of the higher parts of one's soul [Aristotle, by Annas]
The best people exercise their virtue towards others, rather than to themselves [Aristotle]
Self-love benefits ourselves, and also helps others [Aristotle]
Selfishness is wrong not because it is self-love, but because it is excessive [Aristotle]
Carneades said that after a shipwreck a wise man would seize the only plank by force [Carneades, by Tuck]
Selfishness does not produce happiness; to live for yourself, live for others [Seneca]
All voluntary acts aim at some good for the doer [Hobbes]
Spinoza names self-interest as the sole source of value [Spinoza, by Stewart,M]
As death approaches, why do we still care about family, friends or country? [Hutcheson]
Total selfishness is not irrational [Hume]
Only self-love can motivate morality, but that also makes it worthless [Schopenhauer]
The distinction between egoistic and non-egoistic acts is absurd [Nietzsche]
Egoism should not assume that all egos are equal [Nietzsche]
A living being is totally 'egoistic' [Nietzsche]
Self-concern may be a source of pain, or a lack of self-respect, or a failure of responsibility [Korsgaard]