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Single Idea 12218

[filed under theme 7. Existence / A. Nature of Existence / 6. Criterion for Existence ]

Full Idea

Being the case in reality and being fundamental are not sufficient for one another. If one agrees with Thales that the world is composed of water, and with Aristotle that water is indefinitely divisible, then water would be real but not fundamental.

Gist of Idea

Being real and being fundamental are separate; Thales's water might be real and divisible

Source

Kit Fine (The Question of Ontology [2009], p.174)

Book Ref

'Metametaphysics', ed/tr. Chalmers/Manley/Wasserman [OUP 2009], p.174


A Reaction

Presumably the divisibility would make a reductionist account of water possible. The Atlantic Ocean is real, but water molecules would have a more prominent place in the ontology of any good metaphysician.


The 9 ideas from 'The Question of Ontology'

It is plausible that x^2 = -1 had no solutions before complex numbers were 'introduced' [Fine,K]
The indispensability argument shows that nature is non-numerical, not the denial of numbers [Fine,K]
Just as we introduced complex numbers, so we introduced sums and temporal parts [Fine,K]
'Exists' is a predicate, not a quantifier; 'electrons exist' is like 'electrons spin' [Fine,K]
Ontological claims are often universal, and not a matter of existential quantification [Fine,K]
The existence of numbers is not a matter of identities, but of constituents of the world [Fine,K]
Real objects are those which figure in the facts that constitute reality [Fine,K]
Being real and being fundamental are separate; Thales's water might be real and divisible [Fine,K]
For ontology we need, not internal or external views, but a view from outside reality [Fine,K]