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Single Idea 12857

[filed under theme 9. Objects / B. Unity of Objects / 3. Unity Problems / b. Cat and its tail ]

Full Idea

There mere fact that Tibbles can survive the mutilation of losing a tail, whereas the sum of Tib and the tail cannot, is enough to distinguish them, even if no such mutilation ever occurs.

Gist of Idea

Tibbles isn't Tib-plus-tail, because Tibbles can survive its loss, but the sum can't

Source

Peter Simons (Parts [1987], 6.1)

Book Ref

Simons,Peter: 'Parts: a Study in Ontology' [OUP 1987], p.210


A Reaction

See Idea 12835 for details of the Tibbles example. Either we go for essentialism here, or the whole notion of identity collapses. But the essential features of a person are not just those whose loss would kill them.

Related Idea

Idea 12835 Does Tibbles remain the same cat when it loses its tail? [Simons]


The 8 ideas with the same theme [objects contained within other objects]:

Dion and Theon coexist, but Theon lacks a foot. If Dion loses a foot, he ousts Theon? [Chrysippus, by Philo of Alexandria]
If cats are vague, we deny that the many cats are one, or deny that the one cat is many [Lewis]
Tib goes out of existence when the tail is lost, because Tib was never the 'cat' [Burke,M, by Sider]
A CAR and its major PART can become identical, yet seem to have different properties [Gallois]
If Tib is all of Tibbles bar her tail, when Tibbles loses her tail, two different things become one [Sider]
Are sortals spatially maximal - so no cat part is allowed to be a cat? [Hawley]
Does Tibbles remain the same cat when it loses its tail? [Simons]
Tibbles isn't Tib-plus-tail, because Tibbles can survive its loss, but the sum can't [Simons]