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Single Idea 13152

[filed under theme 6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 3. Nature of Numbers / a. Numbers ]

Full Idea

If any man shall take the words number and sum in a larger sense, to understand things which are numberless and sumless (such as the infinite points on a line), I could allow him the contradictious phrase 'innumerable number' without absurdity.

Gist of Idea

We can talk of 'innumerable number', about the infinite points on a line

Source

Isaac Newton (Letters to Bentley [1692], 1693.02.25)

Book Ref

Newton,Isaac: 'Philosophical Writings' [CUP 2004], p.103


A Reaction

[compressed] I take the key point here to be the phrase of taking number 'in a larger sense'. Like the word 'atom' in physics, the word 'number' retains its traditional reference, but has considerably shifted its scope. Amateurs must live with this.


The 26 ideas with the same theme [general ideas concerning numbers]:

We perceive number by the denial of continuity [Aristotle]
Pluralities divide into discontinous countables; magnitudes divide into continuous things [Aristotle]
Perhaps numbers are substances? [Aristotle]
We can talk of 'innumerable number', about the infinite points on a line [Newton]
Numbers are formed by addition of units in time [Kant]
Numbers are free creations of the human mind, to understand differences [Dedekind]
Numbers enable us to manage the world - to the limits of counting [Nietzsche]
Obtaining numbers by abstraction is impossible - there are too many; only a rule could give them, in order [Benacerraf]
We must explain how we know so many numbers, and recognise ones we haven't met before [Benacerraf]
Numbers can't be sets if there is no agreement on which sets they are [Benacerraf]
There are no such things as numbers [Benacerraf]
There is no single unified definition of number [Badiou]
Numbers are for measuring and for calculating (and the two must be consistent) [Badiou]
For primes we write (x not= 1 ∧ ∀u∀v(u x v = x → (u = 1 ∨ v = 1))) [Smith,P]
Number theory aims at the essence of natural numbers, giving their nature, and the epistemology [Wright,C]
Mathematics is higher-order modal logic [Hodes]
In Field's version of science, space-time points replace real numbers [Field,H, by Szabó]
If 'the number of Democrats is on the rise', does that mean that 50 million is on the rise? [Yablo]
We should talk about possible existence, rather than actual existence, of numbers [Burgess/Rosen]
'There are two apples' can be expressed logically, with no mention of numbers [Brown,JR]
The meaning of a number isn't just the numerals leading up to it [Heck]
The Aristotelian view is that numbers depend on (and are abstracted from) other things [Oderberg]
What is the relation of number words as singular-terms, adjectives/determiners, and symbols? [Hofweber]
'2 + 2 = 4' can be read as either singular or plural [Hofweber]
Numbers are used as singular terms, as adjectives, and as symbols [Hofweber]
The Amazonian Piraha language is said to have no number words [Hofweber]