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Single Idea 14054

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / B. Value / 2. Values / e. Death ]

Full Idea

Death, the most frightening of bad things, is nothing to us; since when we exist, death is not yet present, and when death is present, then we do not exist.

Gist of Idea

Fearing death is absurd, because we are not present when it occurs

Source

Epicurus (Letter to Menoeceus [c.291 BCE], 125)

Book Ref

Epicurus: 'The Epicurus Reader', ed/tr. Inwood,B. /Gerson,L. [Hackett 1994], p.29


A Reaction

This is a fairly accurate observation. To fear not being in this life is a bit like fearing not being in Vancouver next Tuesday. It also involves the paradox of the present moment. E.g. Idea 1904.

Related Idea

Idea 1904 Time must be unlimited, but past and present can't be non-existent, and can't be now, so time does not exist [Sext.Empiricus]


The 16 ideas from 'Letter to Menoeceus'

Begin philosophy when you are young, and keep going when you are old [Epicurus]
Fearing death is absurd, because we are not present when it occurs [Epicurus]
It is absurd to fear the pain of death when you are not even facing it [Epicurus]
The wisdom that produces a good life also produces a good death [Epicurus]
Pleasure is the first good in life [Epicurus]
We only need pleasure when we have the pain of desire [Epicurus]
All pleasures are good, but it is not always right to choose them [Epicurus]
Pleasure is the goal, but as lack of pain and calm mind, not as depraved or greedy pleasure [Epicurus]
True pleasure is not debauchery, but freedom from physical and mental pain [Epicurus]
Prudence is the greatest good, and more valuable than philosophy, because it produces virtue [Epicurus]
Prudence is more valuable than philosophy, because it avoids confusions of the soul [Epicurus]
The best life is not sensuality, but rational choice and healthy opinion [Epicurus]
We should not refer things to irresponsible necessity, but either to fortune or to our own will [Epicurus]
Our own choices are autonomous, and the basis for praise and blame [Epicurus]
Sooner follow mythology, than accept the 'fate' of natural philosophers [Epicurus]
Sooner a good decision going wrong, than a bad one turning out for the good [Epicurus]