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Single Idea 14162

[filed under theme 6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 1. Mathematical Platonism / b. Against mathematical platonism ]

Full Idea

Mathematics is throughout indifferent to the question whether its entities exist.

Gist of Idea

Mathematics doesn't care whether its entities exist

Source

Bertrand Russell (The Principles of Mathematics [1903], §434)

Book Ref

Russell,Bertrand: 'Principles of Mathematics' [Routledge 1992], p.458


A Reaction

There is an 'if-thenist' attitude in this book, since he is trying to reduce mathematics to logic. Total indifference leaves the problem of why mathematics is applicable to the real world.

Related Idea

Idea 14161 Many things have being (as topics of propositions), but may not have actual existence [Russell]


The 21 ideas with the same theme [reasons for doubting the existence of maths entities]:

Aristotle removes ontology from mathematics, and replaces the true with the beautiful [Aristotle, by Badiou]
Mathematics is just about ideas, so whether circles exist is irrelevant [Locke]
Mathematics doesn't care whether its entities exist [Russell]
Mathematician want performable operations, not propositions about objects [Skolem]
How can you contemplate Platonic entities without causal transactions with them? [Putnam]
Realists have semantics without epistemology, anti-realists epistemology but bad semantics [Benacerraf, by Colyvan]
The platonist view of mathematics doesn't fit our epistemology very well [Benacerraf]
Number-as-objects works wholesale, but fails utterly object by object [Benacerraf]
'Real' maths objects have no causal role, no determinate reference, and no abstract/concrete distinction [Katz]
If we all intuited mathematical objects, platonism would be agreed [Jubien]
How can pure abstract entities give models to serve as interpretations? [Jubien]
Since mathematical objects are essentially relational, they can't be picked out on their own [Jubien]
It is plausible that x^2 = -1 had no solutions before complex numbers were 'introduced' [Fine,K]
If mathematical objects exist, how can we know them, and which objects are they? [Maddy]
Number words became nouns around the time of Plato [Burgess/Rosen]
Does the existence of numbers matter, in the way space, time and persons do? [Lowe]
Children can use numbers, without a concept of them as countable objects [Heck]
Talk of 'abstract entities' is more a label for the problem than a solution to it [George/Velleman]
Arithmetic is not about a domain of entities, as the quantifiers are purely inferential [Hofweber]
Modern mathematics works up to isomorphism, and doesn't care what things 'really are' [Lavine]
The big problem for platonists is epistemic: how do we perceive, intuit, know or detect mathematical facts? [Friend]