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[filed under theme 26. Natural Theory / C. Causation / 7. Eliminating causation ]

Full Idea

The idea of causation, as it is used in science, finds its exemplars in the special sciences, and it is presently open empirical question whether that notion will have any ultimate role to play in fundamental physics.

Gist of Idea

Causation is found in the special sciences, but may have no role in fundamental physics

Source

J Ladyman / D Ross (Every Thing Must Go [2007], 4.5)

Book Ref

Ladyman,J/Ross,D: 'Every Thing Must Go' [OUP 2007], p.257


A Reaction

Note that they seem to always have a notion of 'ultimate' physics hovering over their account. I wonder. There is nothing in this idea to make me think that I should eliminate the idea of causation from my metaphysics.


The 19 ideas with the same theme [scepticism about the whole idea of causation]:

There are no causes, because they are relative, and alike things can't cause one another [Pyrrho, by Diog. Laertius]
If there were no causes then everything would have been randomly produced by everything [Sext.Empiricus]
Knowing an effect results from a cause means knowing that the cause belongs with the effect, which is circular [Sext.Empiricus]
Cause can't exist before effect, or exist at the same time, so it doesn't exist [Sext.Empiricus]
Hume never even suggests that there is no such thing as causation [Hume, by Strawson,G]
The search for first or final causes is futile [Comte]
Cause and effect is a hypothesis, based on our supposed willing of actions [Nietzsche]
Science has taken the meaning out of causation; cause and effect are two equal sides of an equation [Nietzsche]
The law of causality is a source of confusion, and should be dropped from philosophy [Russell]
If causes are contiguous with events, only the last bit is relevant, or the event's timing is baffling [Russell]
Moments and points seem to imply other moments and points, but don't cause them [Russell]
We can drop 'cause', and just make inferences between facts [Russell]
We should analyse causation in terms of powers [Molnar]
A mind that could see cause and effect as a continuum would deny cause and effect [Richardson]
Maybe scientific causation is just generalisation about the patterns [Hawthorne]
The Uncertainty Principle implies that cause and effect can't be measured [Watson]
The notion of causation allows understanding of science, without appearing in equations [Schaffer,J]
Causation is utterly essential for numerous philosophical explanations [Schaffer,J]
Causation is found in the special sciences, but may have no role in fundamental physics [Ladyman/Ross]