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Single Idea 14960

[filed under theme 9. Objects / A. Existence of Objects / 5. Individuation / c. Individuation by location ]

Full Idea

A body is that, which having no dependence on our thought, is coincident or coextended with some part of space.

Gist of Idea

Bodies are independent of thought, and coincide with part of space

Source

Thomas Hobbes (De Corpore (Elements, First Section) [1655], 2.08.01)

Book Ref

Hobbes,Thomas: 'Metaphysical Writings', ed/tr. Calkins,Mary Whiton [Open Court 1905], p.53


A Reaction

This rather Cartesian view doesn't seem to offer any distinction between empty space and space containing an 'object'. Presumably it is the ancestor of the Quinean account just in terms of space-time points. Don't like it.


The 12 ideas with the same theme [picking out by location in spacetime]:

Bodies are independent of thought, and coincide with part of space [Hobbes]
If you separate the two places of one thing, you will also separate the thing [Hobbes]
If you separated two things in the same place, you would also separate the places [Hobbes]
A thing is individuated just by existing at a time and place [Locke]
Obviously two bodies cannot be in the same place [Locke]
A body is that which exists in space [Leibniz]
We use things to distinguish places and times, not vice versa [Leibniz]
Objects only exist if they 'occupy' space and time [Russell]
Singling out extends back and forward in time [Wiggins]
Times and places are identified by objects, so cannot be used in a theory of object-identity [Loux]
Diversity of two tigers is their difference in space-time; difference of matter is a consequence [Lowe]
A 'thing' cannot be in two places at once, and two things cannot be in the same place at once [Macdonald,C]