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Single Idea 1511

[filed under theme 27. Natural Reality / C. Space / 5. Relational Space ]

Full Idea

If there is a place it will be in something, because everything that exists is in something. But what is in something is in a place. Therefore the place will be in a place, and so on ad infinitum. Therefore, there is no such thing as place.

Gist of Idea

If everything is in a place, what is the place in? Place doesn't exist

Source

report of Zeno (Elea) (fragments/reports [c.450 BCE], B3) by Simplicius - On Aristotle's 'Physics' 9.562.3

Book Ref

'The First Philosophers', ed/tr. Waterfield,Robin [OUP 2000], p.79


The 8 ideas with the same theme [space as entirely the relations between objects]:

If everything is in a place, what is the place in? Place doesn't exist [Zeno of Elea, by Simplicius]
Place is not shape, or matter, or extension between limits; it is the limits of a body [Aristotle]
We can locate the parts of the universe, but not the whole thing [Locke]
Space is an order among actual and possible things [Leibniz]
Relational space is problematic if you take the idea of a field seriously [Field,H]
For relationists moving an object beyond the edge of space creates new space [Le Poidevin]
If space is entirely relational, what makes a boundary, or a place unoccupied by physical objects? [Lowe]
'Space' in physics just means location [Hesketh]