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Single Idea 15204

[filed under theme 27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 2. Passage of Time / c. Tenses and time ]

Full Idea

In the new tenseless theory, no tensed token sentence can be equivalent to a tenseless token, because the former, unlike the latter, draws attention to the context in which it is tokened.

Gist of Idea

Actual tensed sentences cannot be tenseless, because they can cite their own context

Source

report of John Perry (The Problem of the Essential Indexical [1979]) by Robin Le Poidevin - Past, Present and Future of Debate about Tense 3 a

Book Ref

'Questions of Time and Tense', ed/tr. Le Poidevin,R [OUP 2002], p.29


A Reaction

So the problem about indexicals was worrying fans of the tenseless B-series view of time (and so it should). I'm inclined to translate sentences containing indexicals into their actual propositions, which tend to avoid them. 'Time/person of utterance'.


The 10 ideas with the same theme [meaning of verbs of past and future]:

Time doesn't end with the Universe, because tensed statements about destruction remain true [Sext.Empiricus]
Tense is essential for thought and action [Perry, by Le Poidevin]
Actual tensed sentences cannot be tenseless, because they can cite their own context [Perry, by Le Poidevin]
At the very least, minds themselves seem to be tensed [Le Poidevin]
Fiction seems to lack a tensed perspective, and offers an example of tenseless language [Le Poidevin]
A-theorists tend to reject the tensed/tenseless distinction [Fine,K]
It is said that in the A-theory, all existents and objects must be tensed, as well as the sentences [Fine,K]
It is the view of the future that really decides between tensed and tenseless views of time [Le Poidevin]
Talk using tenses can be eliminated, by reducing it to indexical connections for an utterance [Sider]
The past, present and future walked into a bar.... [Sommers,W]