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[filed under theme 8. Modes of Existence / B. Properties / 10. Properties as Predicates ]

Full Idea

Sometimes a predicate is true of a thing, not because (or only because) of any properties it has, but because something else, perhaps something related to it in certain ways, has certain properties.

Gist of Idea

Some truths are not because of a thing's properties, but because of the properties of related things

Source

Sydney Shoemaker (Causality and Properties [1980], §02)

Book Ref

Shoemaker,Sydney: 'Identity, Cause and Mind' [OUP 2003], p.209


A Reaction

I'm on mission to prize predicates and properties apart, and the strategy is to focus on what is true of something, given that this may not ascribe a property to the thing.


The 30 ideas with the same theme [properties as purely linguistic concepts]:

If we only saw bronze circles, would bronze be part of the concept of a circle? [Aristotle]
It is unclear whether Frege included qualities among his abstract objects [Frege, by Hale]
Frege allows either too few properties (as extensions) or too many (as predicates) [Mellor/Oliver on Frege]
Quine says the predicate of a true statement has no ontological implications [Quine, by Armstrong]
If some dogs are brown, that entails the properties of 'being brown' and 'being canine' [Chisholm]
Attributes are functions, not objects; this distinguishes 'square of 2' from 'double of 2' [Geach]
Whether we apply 'cold' or 'hot' to an object is quite separate from its change of temperature [Armstrong]
To the claim that every predicate has a property, start by eliminating failure of application of predicate [Armstrong]
'Being a methane molecule' is not a property - it is just a predicate [Ellis]
Some truths are not because of a thing's properties, but because of the properties of related things [Shoemaker]
We should abandon the idea that properties are the meanings of predicate expressions [Shoemaker]
There is obviously a possible predicate for every property [Mellor]
I accept a hierarchy of properties of properties of properties [Stalnaker]
Properties are very abundant (unlike universals), and are used for semantics and higher-order variables [Lewis]
There is the property of belonging to a set, so abundant properties are as numerous as the sets [Lewis]
There are far more properties than any brain could ever encodify [Lewis]
We need properties as semantic values for linguistic expressions [Lewis]
A particle and a coin heads-or-tails pick out to perfectly well-defined predicates and properties [Fodor]
A successful predicate guarantees the existence of a property - the way of being it expresses [Hale/Wright]
The expressions with properties as their meanings are predicates and abstract singular terms [Oliver]
There are five main semantic theories for properties [Oliver]
A predicate applies truly if it picks out a real property of objects [Heil]
From the property predicates P and Q, we can get 'P or Q', but it doesn't have to designate another property [Heil]
In Fa, F may not be a property of a, but a determinable, satisfied by some determinate [Heil]
Predicates only match properties at the level of fundamentals [Heil]
Properties are often seen as intensional; equiangular and equilateral are different, despite identity of objects [Shapiro]
Is 'the Thames is broad in London' relational, or adverbial, or segmental? [Lowe]
Predicates can be 'sparse' if there is a universal, or if there is a natural property or relation [Sider]
To name an abundant property is either a Fregean concept, or a simple predicate [Bird]
Quineans say that predication is primitive and inexplicable [Edwards]