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Single Idea 15814
[filed under theme 9. Objects / C. Structure of Objects / 7. Substratum
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Full Idea
Our idea of a peach is not an idea of something that 'has' those particular qualities, but the concrete thing that 'is' sweet and round and fuzzy.
Gist of Idea
A peach is sweet and fuzzy, but it doesn't 'have' those qualities
Source
Roderick Chisholm (Person and Object [1976], 1.6)
Book Ref
Chisholm,Roderick: 'Person and Object' [Open Court 1976], p.38
A Reaction
This is the beginnings of his 'adverbial' account of properties, with which you have to sympathise. It tries to eliminate the possibility of some propertyless thing, to which properties can then be added, like sprinkling sugar on it.
The
22 ideas
with the same theme
[an object's underlying aspect, apart from surface features]:
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10962
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It is unclear whether Aristotle believes in a propertyless subject, his 'ultimate matter'
[Aristotle, by Lawson-Tancred]
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10942
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If you extract all features of the object, what is left over?
[Aristotle]
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16575
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Something must pre-exist any new production
[Aristotle]
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16142
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A substrate is either a 'this' supporting qualities, or 'matter' supporting actuality
[Aristotle]
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16103
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A subject can't be nothing, so it must qualify as separate, and as having a distinct identity
[Aristotle, by Gill,ML]
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16631
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If we remove surface qualities from wax, we have an extended, flexible, changeable thing
[Descartes]
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12559
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Complex ideas are collections of qualities we attach to an unknown substratum
[Locke]
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12968
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A 'substratum' is just a metaphor for whatever supports several predicates
[Leibniz]
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15814
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A peach is sweet and fuzzy, but it doesn't 'have' those qualities
[Chisholm]
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15481
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I favour the idea of a substratum for properties; spacetime seems to be just a bearer of properties
[Martin,CB]
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15264
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The notorious substratum results from substance-with-qualities; individuals-with-powers solves this
[Harré/Madden]
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11969
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Models nicely separate particulars from their clothing, and logicians often accept that metaphysically
[Kaplan]
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12764
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For the bare particular view, properties must be features, not just groups of objects
[Stalnaker]
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16407
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Possible worlds allow separating all the properties, without hitting a bare particular
[Stalnaker]
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7929
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A substance is either a bundle of properties, or a bare substratum, or an essence
[Macdonald,C]
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7941
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Each substance contains a non-property, which is its substratum or bare particular
[Macdonald,C]
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7942
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The substratum theory explains the unity of substances, and their survival through change
[Macdonald,C]
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7943
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A substratum has the quality of being bare, and they are useless because indiscernible
[Macdonald,C]
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16584
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If a substrate gives causal support for change, quite a lot of the ingredients must endure
[Pasnau]
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16579
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There may be different types of substrate, or temporary substrates
[Pasnau]
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16580
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A substrate may be 'prime matter', which endures through every change
[Pasnau]
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16596
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A substratum can't be 'bare', because it has a job to do
[Pasnau]
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