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Single Idea 1590

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / B. Value / 2. Values / f. Altruism ]

Full Idea

First, Socrates, you told me justice is harming your enemies and helping your friends. But later it seemed that the just man, since everything he does is for someone's benefit, never harms anyone.

Gist of Idea

The just man does not harm his enemies, but benefits everyone

Source

Plato (Clitophon [c.372 BCE], 410b)

Book Ref

Roochnik,David: 'The Tragedy of Reason: the Platonic logos' [Routledge 1990], p.101

A Reaction

Socrates certainly didn't subscribe to the first view, which is the traditional consensus in Greek culture. In general Socrates agreed with the views later promoted by Jesus.

Related Idea

Idea 2 We should not even harm someone who harms us [Socrates]

The 16 ideas with the same theme [placing the concerns of others before one's self]:

1590 The just man does not harm his enemies, but benefits everyone [Plato]
90 All altruism is an extension of self-love [Aristotle]
3553 Stoic morality says that one's own happiness will lead to impartiality [Stoic school, by Annas]
6244 Human nature seems incapable of universal malice, except what results from self-love [Hutcheson]
3926 The human heart has a natural concern for public good [Hume]
3717 Reverence is awareness of a value which demolishes my self-love [Kant]
3720 We may claim noble motives, but we cannot penetrate our secret impulses [Kant]
4185 Altruistic people make less distinction than usual between themselves and others [Schopenhauer]
14831 No one has ever done anything that was entirely for other people [Nietzsche]
7205 Altruism is praised by the egoism of the weak, who want everyone to be looked after [Nietzsche]
4505 How can it be that I should prefer my neighbour to myself, but he should prefer me to himself? [Nietzsche]
5316 We undermine altruism by rewarding it, but we reward it to encourage it [Wilson,EO]
5318 Pure hard-core altruism based on kin selection is the enemy of civilisation [Wilson,EO]
3263 If our own life lacks meaning, devotion to others won't give it meaning [Nagel]
21830 For Darwinians, altruism is either contracts or genetics [Flanagan]
9781 Tolerance and love are strategies to avoid encountering our neighbours [Zizek]