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[filed under theme 8. Modes of Existence / D. Universals / 6. Platonic Forms / a. Platonic Forms
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Full Idea
It seems to me that Plato in the later dialogues, beginning with the second half of 'Parmenides', wants to substitute a theory of genera and theory of principles that constitute these genera for the earlier theory of forms.
Gist of Idea
Plato moves from Forms to a theory of genera and principles in his later work
Source
report of Plato (Parmenides [c.364 BCE]) by Michael Frede - Title, Unity, Authenticity of the 'Categories' V
Book Ref
Frede,Michael: 'Essays in Ancient Philosophy' [University of Minnesota 1987], p.27
A Reaction
My theory is that the later Plato came under the influence of the brilliant young Aristotle, and this idea is a symptom of it. The theory of 'principles' sounds like hylomorphism to me.
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[Plato's separate reality of pure ideas]:
7996
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I am all the beauty and goodness of things, says Krishna
[Anon (Bhag)]
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1652
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Socrates did not consider universals or definitions as having separate existence, but Plato made Forms of them
[Socrates, by Aristotle]
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16151
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Plato moves from Forms to a theory of genera and principles in his later work
[Plato, by Frede,M]
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210
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It would be absurd to think there were abstract Forms for vile things like hair, mud and dirt
[Plato]
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211
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If admirable things have Forms, maybe everything else does as well
[Plato]
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219
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If absolute ideas existed in us, they would cease to be absolute
[Plato]
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220
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The concept of a master includes the concept of a slave
[Plato]
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228
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Greatness and smallness must exist, to be opposed to one another, and come into being in things
[Plato]
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360
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We must have a prior knowledge of equality, if we see 'equal' things and realise they fall short of it
[Plato]
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154
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We would have an overpowering love of knowledge if we had a pure idea of it - as with the other Forms
[Plato]
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12043
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Forms are not universals, as they don't cover every general term
[Plato, by Annas]
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5094
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Plato's Forms are said to have no location in space
[Plato, by Aristotle]
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2159
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Craftsmen making furniture refer to the form, but no one manufactures the form of furniture
[Plato]
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16122
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Good thinkers spot forms spread through things, or included within some larger form
[Plato]
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10422
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The not-beautiful is part of the beautiful, though opposed to it, and is just as real
[Plato]
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1607
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Diotima said the Forms are the objects of desire in philosophical discourse
[Plato, by Roochnik]
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12042
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Plato's Forms were seen as part of physics, rather than of metaphysics
[Plato, by Annas]
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307
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Something will always be well-made if the maker keeps in mind the eternal underlying pattern
[Plato]
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318
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In addition to the underlying unchanging model and a changing copy of it, there must also be a foundation of all change
[Plato]
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321
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For knowledge and true opinion to be different there must be Forms; otherwise we are just stuck with sensations
[Plato]
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20906
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Platonists argue for the indivisible triangle-in-itself
[Plato, by Aristotle]
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17948
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Plato's Forms meant that the sophists only taught the appearance of wisdom and virtue
[Plato, by Nehamas]
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3039
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When Diogenes said he could only see objects but not their forms, Plato said it was because he had eyes but no intellect
[Plato, by Diog. Laertius]
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10948
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Forms are said to be substances to which nothing is prior
[Aristotle]
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17945
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Forms are not a theory of universals, but an attempt to explain how predication is possible
[Nehamas]
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Redness is independent of red things, can do without them, has its own properties, and has identity
[Moreland]
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