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[filed under theme 9. Objects / F. Identity among Objects / 6. Identity between Objects ]

Full Idea

Two things can't be vaguely identical, because then a would have an indeterminacy which b lacks (namely, being perfectly identical to b), so by Leibniz's Law they can't be identical.

Gist of Idea

There can't be vague identity; a and b must differ, since a, unlike b, is only vaguely the same as b

Source

report of Gareth Evans (Can there be Vague Objects? [1978], 4.7) by PG - Db (ideas)

Book Ref

Hawley,Katherine: 'How Things Persist' [OUP 2004], p.118


A Reaction

[my summary of Katherine Hawley's summary (2001:118) of Evans] Hawley considers the argument to be valid. I have grave doubts about whether b's identity with b is the sort of property needed for an application of Liebniz's Law.


The 6 ideas from 'Can there be Vague Objects?'

Evans argues (falsely!) that a contradiction follows from treating objects as vague [Evans, by Lowe]
Is it coherent that reality is vague, identities can be vague, and objects can have fuzzy boundaries? [Evans]
Evans assumes there can be vague identity statements, and that his proof cannot be right [Evans, by Lewis]
There clearly are vague identity statements, and Evans's argument has a false conclusion [Evans, by Lewis]
If a=b is indeterminate, then a=/=b, and so there cannot be indeterminate identity [Evans, by Thomasson]
There can't be vague identity; a and b must differ, since a, unlike b, is only vaguely the same as b [Evans, by PG]