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Single Idea 16582

[filed under theme 10. Modality / D. Knowledge of Modality / 4. Conceivable as Possible / b. Conceivable but impossible ]

Full Idea

Even if we can feign in our mind that a point swells to a huge bulk and then contracts to a point - imagining something's made from nothing (ex nihilo), and nothing's made from something - still we cannot comprehend how this could be done in nature.

Gist of Idea

We can imagine a point swelling and contracting - but not how this could be done

Source

Thomas Hobbes (De Corpore (Elements, First Section) [1655], 2.08.20)

Book Ref

Hobbes,Thomas: 'Metaphysical Writings', ed/tr. Calkins,Mary Whiton [Open Court 1905], p.66


A Reaction

[compressed] Pasnau notes that this offers two sorts of conceivability, of something happening, and of a reason for it happening. A really nice idea, significant (I think) for scientific essentialists, who say possibilities are fewer than you think.


The 10 ideas with the same theme [seems conceivable when not actually possible]:

Pythagoras' Theorem doesn't cease to be part of the essence of triangles just because we doubt it [Arnauld on Descartes]
We can imagine a point swelling and contracting - but not how this could be done [Hobbes]
Impossibilites are easily conceived in mathematics and geometry [Reid, by Molnar]
It is possible to conceive what is not possible [Shoemaker]
If Goldbach's Conjecture is true (and logically necessary), we may be able to conceive its opposite [Harré/Madden]
The impossible can be imagined as long as it is a bit vague [Lewis]
One can wrongly imagine two things being non-identical even though they are the same (morning/evening star) [Chalmers]
If claims of metaphysical necessity are based on conceivability, we should be cautious [Segal]
Conceivability may indicate possibility, but literary fantasy does not [Varzi]
Contradictory claims about a necessary god both seem apriori coherent [Schroeter]