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Single Idea 1661
[filed under theme 25. Social Practice / D. Justice / 3. Punishment / b. Retribution for crime
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Full Idea
Socrates was the first Greek to grasp the truth that if someone has done a nasty thing to me, this does not give the slightest moral justification for doing anything nasty to him.
Gist of Idea
Socrates was the first to grasp that a cruelty is not justified by another cruelty
Source
comment on Socrates (reports of career [c.420 BCE]) by Gregory Vlastos - Socrates: Ironist and Moral Philosopher p.190
Book Ref
Vlastos,Gregory: 'Socrates: Ironist and Moral Philosopher' [CUP 1992], p.190
The
13 ideas
with the same theme
[punishment as giving offenders what they deserve]:
1659
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Protagoras seems to have made the huge move of separating punishment from revenge
[Protagoras, by Vlastos]
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1661
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Socrates was the first to grasp that a cruelty is not justified by another cruelty
[Vlastos on Socrates]
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1755
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Errors result from external influence, and should be corrected, not hated
[Aristippus elder, by Diog. Laertius]
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8241
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Only put someone to death if the whole population believes it is deserved
[Mengzi (Mencius)]
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1660
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It is noble to avenge oneself on one's enemies, and not come to terms with them
[Aristotle]
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19770
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Primitive people simply redressed the evil caused by violence, without thought of punishing
[Rousseau]
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7673
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Retributive punishment is better than being sent to hospital for your crimes
[Kant, by Berlin]
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21433
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Violation of rights deserves punishment, which is vengeance, rather than restitution
[Kant]
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24118
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Do away with punishment. Counter-retribution is as bad as the crime
[Nietzsche]
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18300
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Whenever we have seen suffering, we have wanted the revenge of punishment
[Nietzsche]
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23527
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Moral wickedness of an offence is always relevant to the degree of punishment
[Hart,HLA]
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1658
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In early Greece the word for punishment was also the word for vengeance
[Vlastos]
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20617
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How should the punishment fit the crime (for stealing chickens?)
[Tuckness/Wolf]
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