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Single Idea 16761

[filed under theme 9. Objects / C. Structure of Objects / 2. Hylomorphism / b. Form as principle ]

Full Idea

The consideration of forms serves no purpose in the details of physics and must not be used to explain particular phenomena. …but their misuse must not lead us to reject something which is so useful to metaphysics.

Gist of Idea

Forms are of no value in physics, but are indispensable in metaphysics

Source

Gottfried Leibniz (Discourse on Metaphysics [1686], 10), quoted by Robert Pasnau - Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671 24.5

Book Ref

Pasnau,Robert: 'Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671' [OUP 2011], p.566


A Reaction

This is a key test for the question of whether metaphysics is separate from science (as Leibniz and Pasnau think), or whether there is a continuum. Is 'substantial form' an illuminating way to undestand modern physics?


The 8 ideas with the same theme [form as the guiding principle of an object]:

Some forms, such as the Prime Mover, are held by Aristotle to exist without matter [Aristotle, by Gill,ML]
A true substance is constituted by some nature, which is a principle [Aristotle]
Form is the principle that connects a thing's constitution (rather than being operative) [Hill,N]
Forms are of no value in physics, but are indispensable in metaphysics [Leibniz]
Basic particles have a mathematical form, which is more important than their substance [Heisenberg]
The peripatetics treated forms and real qualities as independent of matter, and non-material [Alexander,P]
We can treat the structure/form of the world differently from the nodes/matter of the world [Hawthorne]
Hylomorphism may not be a rival to science, but an abstract account of unity and endurance [Pasnau]