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Single Idea 16779

[filed under theme 9. Objects / B. Unity of Objects / 2. Substance / c. Types of substance ]

Full Idea

When a piece of wood is divided in two halves, no new substance is generated. But there are now two substances, or the accidents of the two halves would be without a subject. They existed before hand, and were one piece of wood, but not in the same place.

Gist of Idea

Cut wood doesn't make a new substance, but seems to make separate subjects

Source

William of Ockham (Seven Quodlibets [1332], IV.19), quoted by Richard S. Westfall - Never at Rest: a biography of Isaac Newton 26.2

Book Ref

Pasnau,Robert: 'Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671' [OUP 2011], p.611


A Reaction

A nice example, demonstrating that there are substances within substances, contrary to the view of Duns Scotus. If a substance is just a subject for properties, it is hard to know what to make of this case.


The 20 ideas with the same theme [varieties of entity that can count as substances]:

Plato's holds that there are three substances: Forms, mathematical entities, and perceptible bodies [Plato, by Aristotle]
Speusippus suggested underlying principles for every substance, and ended with a huge list [Speussipus, by Aristotle]
Secondary substances do have subjects, so they are not ultimate in the ontology [Aristotle, by Frede,M]
In earlier Aristotle the substances were particulars, not kinds [Aristotle, by Lawson-Tancred]
A 'primary' substance is in each subject, with species or genera as 'secondary' substances [Aristotle]
Mature Aristotle sees organisms as the paradigm substances [Aristotle, by Pasnau]
Elements and physical objects are substances, but ideas and mathematics are not so clear [Aristotle]
Is a primary substance a foundation of existence, or the last stage of understanding? [Aristotle, by Gill,ML]
Units are positionless substances, and points are substances with position [Aristotle]
Cut wood doesn't make a new substance, but seems to make separate subjects [William of Ockham]
Substances 'substand' (beneath accidents), or 'subsist' (independently) [Eustachius]
We can conceive of three sorts of substance: God, finite intelligence, and bodies [Locke]
We sort and name substances by nominal and not by real essence [Locke]
Substances mirror God or the universe, each from its own viewpoint [Leibniz]
Substance must necessarily involve progress and change [Leibniz]
Substances are everywhere in matter, like points in a line [Leibniz]
Descartes says there are two substance, Spinoza one, and Leibniz infinitely many [Cottingham]
Maybe there is only one substance, space-time or a quantum field [Heil]
We can ask for the nature of substance, about type of substance, and about individual substances [Cover/O'Leary-Hawthorne]
Scholastics use 'substantia' for thick concrete entities, and for thin metaphysical ones [Pasnau]