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Single Idea 17035

[filed under theme 19. Language / B. Reference / 3. Direct Reference / c. Social reference ]

Full Idea

It's in virtue of our connection with other speakers in the community, going back to the referent himself, that we refer to a certain man.

Gist of Idea

We refer through the community, going back to the original referent

Source

Saul A. Kripke (Naming and Necessity lectures [1970], Lecture 2)

Book Ref

Kripke,Saul: 'Naming and Necessity' [Blackwell 1980], p.94


A Reaction

There may be two theories of reference getting tangled up here. Going back to the origin is one thing, and relying on the community is another. Do I always know who I am referring to? 'The funniest man in London'.


The 12 ideas with the same theme [reference fixed by persons beyond the speaker]:

For the correct reference of complex ideas, we can only refer to experts [Locke]
A word's meaning is the thing conceived, as fixed by linguistic experts [Reid]
Reference is mainly a social phenomenon [Strawson,P, by Sainsbury]
We need to recognise the contribution of society and of the world in determining reference [Putnam]
Maybe the total mental state of a language community fixes the reference of a term [Putnam]
Neither individual nor community mental states fix reference [Putnam]
Reference (say to 'elms') is a social phenomenon which we can leave to experts [Putnam]
Aristotle implies that we have the complete concepts of a language in our heads, but we don't [Putnam]
Kripke makes reference a largely social matter, external to the mind of the speaker [Kripke, by McGinn]
Kripke's theory is important because it gives a collective account of reference [Kripke, by Putnam]
We refer through the community, going back to the original referent [Kripke]
A description may fix a reference even when it is not true of its object [Kripke]