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Single Idea 17053

[filed under theme 26. Natural Theory / B. Natural Kinds / 6. Necessity of Kinds ]

Full Idea

Gold could turn out not to have atomic number 79. …But given that gold does have the atomic number 79, could something be gold without having the atomic number 79?

Gist of Idea

Gold's atomic number might not be 79, but if it is, could non-79 stuff be gold?

Source

Saul A. Kripke (Naming and Necessity lectures [1970], Lecture 3)

Book Ref

Kripke,Saul: 'Naming and Necessity' [Blackwell 1980], p.123


A Reaction

The question seems to be 'is atomic number 79 essential to gold?', and on p.124 Kripke seems to say 'yes'. I agree. But how do we decide which features are essential to gold? Why do we think molten gold does count as gold?


The 7 ideas with the same theme [natural kinds in some way have to be as they are]:

Whatever holds of a kind intrinsically holds of it necessarily [Aristotle]
For essentialists two members of a natural kind must be identical [Ellis]
The whole of our world is a natural kind, so all worlds like it necessarily have the same laws [Ellis]
Gold's atomic number might not be 79, but if it is, could non-79 stuff be gold? [Kripke]
'Cats are animals' has turned out to be a necessary truth [Kripke]
We can base the idea of a natural kind on the mechanisms that produce natural necessity [Harré/Madden]
Maybe the identity of kinds is necessary, but instances being of that kind is not [Mackie,P]