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Single Idea 17428

[filed under theme 6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 4. Using Numbers / d. Counting via concepts ]

Full Idea

Roughly, Frege's picture of counting is this. When we count something, we determine what number belongs to a given concept.

Gist of Idea

Frege says counting is determining what number belongs to a given concept

Source

report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884], §54) by Kathrin Koslicki - Isolation and Non-arbitrary Division 2.1

Book Ref

-: 'Synthese' [-], p.405


A Reaction

If the concept were 'herd of sheep' that would need a context before there could be a fixed number. You can count until you get bored, like counting stars to get to sleep. 'Count off 20 sheep' has the number before the counting starts.

Related Idea

Idea 17429 Frege says only concepts which isolate and avoid arbitrary division can give units [Frege, by Koslicki]


The 12 ideas with the same theme [grouping by concept for counting]:

Our concepts decide what is countable, as in seeing the leaves of the tree, or the foliage [Frege, by Koslicki]
Frege's 'isolation' could be absence of overlap, or drawing conceptual boundaries [Frege, by Koslicki]
Non-arbitrary division means that what falls under the concept cannot be divided into more of the same [Frege, by Koslicki]
A concept creating a unit must isolate and unify what falls under it [Frege]
Frege says counting is determining what number belongs to a given concept [Frege, by Koslicki]
Are 'word token' and 'word type' different sorts of countable objects, or two ways of counting? [Geach, by Perry]
Counting 'coin in this box' may have coin as the unit, with 'in this box' merely as the scope [Ayers]
If counting needs a sortal, what of things which fall under two sortals? [Ayers]
Maybe the concept needed under which things coincide must also yield a principle of counting [Wiggins]
The sortal needed for identities may not always be sufficient to support counting [Wiggins]
Instances of a non-sortal concept can only be counted relative to a sortal concept [Wright,C]
We struggle to count branches and waves because our concepts lack clear boundaries [Koslicki]