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Single Idea 17437

[filed under theme 6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 4. Using Numbers / d. Counting via concepts ]

Full Idea

Non-arbitrary division concerns the internal structure of the things falling under a concept. Its point is to ensure that we cannot go on dividing these units arbitrarily and still expect to find more things of the same kind.

Gist of Idea

Non-arbitrary division means that what falls under the concept cannot be divided into more of the same

Source

report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Kathrin Koslicki - Isolation and Non-arbitrary Division 2.3

Book Ref

-: 'Synthese' [-], p.418


A Reaction

Counting something red is given as an example. This seems to define mass-terms, or stuff.

Related Ideas

Idea 17426 A concept creating a unit must isolate and unify what falls under it [Frege]

Idea 12844 Dissective: stuff is dissective if parts of the stuff are always the stuff [Simons]


The 12 ideas with the same theme [grouping by concept for counting]:

Our concepts decide what is countable, as in seeing the leaves of the tree, or the foliage [Frege, by Koslicki]
Frege's 'isolation' could be absence of overlap, or drawing conceptual boundaries [Frege, by Koslicki]
Non-arbitrary division means that what falls under the concept cannot be divided into more of the same [Frege, by Koslicki]
A concept creating a unit must isolate and unify what falls under it [Frege]
Frege says counting is determining what number belongs to a given concept [Frege, by Koslicki]
Are 'word token' and 'word type' different sorts of countable objects, or two ways of counting? [Geach, by Perry]
Counting 'coin in this box' may have coin as the unit, with 'in this box' merely as the scope [Ayers]
If counting needs a sortal, what of things which fall under two sortals? [Ayers]
Maybe the concept needed under which things coincide must also yield a principle of counting [Wiggins]
The sortal needed for identities may not always be sufficient to support counting [Wiggins]
Instances of a non-sortal concept can only be counted relative to a sortal concept [Wright,C]
We struggle to count branches and waves because our concepts lack clear boundaries [Koslicki]