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Single Idea 17504

[filed under theme 19. Language / B. Reference / 3. Direct Reference / c. Social reference ]

Full Idea

What is important about Kripke's theory is not that the use of proper names is 'causal' - what is not? - but that the use of proper names is collective.

Gist of Idea

Kripke's theory is important because it gives a collective account of reference

Source

report of Saul A. Kripke (Naming and Necessity lectures [1970]) by Hilary Putnam - Explanation and Reference II B

Book Ref

Putnam,Hilary: 'Mind Language and Reality: Papers vol 2' [CUP 1975], p.203


A Reaction

This is the best response to Kripke. Reference is achieved by thinkers and speakers, but it is also a team activity, as in the case of the elm, or of Amenhotep II.


The 12 ideas with the same theme [reference fixed by persons beyond the speaker]:

For the correct reference of complex ideas, we can only refer to experts [Locke]
A word's meaning is the thing conceived, as fixed by linguistic experts [Reid]
Reference is mainly a social phenomenon [Strawson,P, by Sainsbury]
We need to recognise the contribution of society and of the world in determining reference [Putnam]
Maybe the total mental state of a language community fixes the reference of a term [Putnam]
Neither individual nor community mental states fix reference [Putnam]
Reference (say to 'elms') is a social phenomenon which we can leave to experts [Putnam]
Aristotle implies that we have the complete concepts of a language in our heads, but we don't [Putnam]
Kripke makes reference a largely social matter, external to the mind of the speaker [Kripke, by McGinn]
Kripke's theory is important because it gives a collective account of reference [Kripke, by Putnam]
We refer through the community, going back to the original referent [Kripke]
A description may fix a reference even when it is not true of its object [Kripke]