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Single Idea 17518

[filed under theme 6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 4. Using Numbers / d. Counting via concepts ]

Full Idea

If we count the concept 'coin in this box', we could regard coin as the 'unit', while taking 'in this box' to limit the scope. Counting coins in two boxes would be not a difference in unit (kind of object), but in scope.

Gist of Idea

Counting 'coin in this box' may have coin as the unit, with 'in this box' merely as the scope

Source

M.R. Ayers (Individuals without Sortals [1974], 'Counting')

Book Ref

-: 'Canadian Journal of Philosophy' [-], p.139


A Reaction

This is a very nice alternative to the Fregean view of counting, depending totally on the concept, and rests more on a natural concept of object. I prefer Ayers. Compare 'count coins till I tell you to stop'.


The 15 ideas from 'Individuals without Sortals'

Recognising continuity is separate from sortals, and must precede their use [Ayers]
Speakers need the very general category of a thing, if they are to think about it [Ayers]
Some say a 'covering concept' completes identity; others place the concept in the reference [Ayers]
You can't have the concept of a 'stage' if you lack the concept of an object [Ayers]
We use sortals to classify physical objects by the nature and origin of their unity [Ayers]
Sortals basically apply to individuals [Ayers]
Events do not have natural boundaries, and we have to set them [Ayers]
To express borderline cases of objects, you need the concept of an 'object' [Ayers]
Counting 'coin in this box' may have coin as the unit, with 'in this box' merely as the scope [Ayers]
Temporal 'parts' cannot be separated or rearranged [Ayers]
If diachronic identities need covering concepts, why not synchronic identities too? [Ayers]
If there are two objects, then 'that marble, man-shaped object' is ambiguous [Ayers]
Seeing caterpillar and moth as the same needs continuity, not identity of sortal concepts [Ayers]
Could the same matter have more than one form or principle of unity? [Ayers]
If counting needs a sortal, what of things which fall under two sortals? [Ayers]