more from this thinker     |     more from this text


Single Idea 17536

[filed under theme 6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 4. Mathematical Empiricism / b. Indispensability of mathematics ]

Full Idea

The solution was to turn around the question How can one in the known mathematical scheme express a given experimental situation? and ask Is it true that only such situations can arise in nature as can be expressed in the mathematical formalism?

Gist of Idea

If it can't be expressed mathematically, it can't occur in nature?

Source

Werner Heisenberg (Physics and Philosophy [1958], 02)

Book Ref

Heisenberg,Werner: 'Physics and Philosophy' [Penguin 1989], p.30


A Reaction

This has the authority of the great Heisenberg, and is the ultimate expression of 'mathematical physics', beyond anything Galileo or Newton ever conceived. I suppose Pythagoras would have thought that Heisenberg was obviously right.


The 17 ideas with the same theme [maths as a necessity for empirical investigation]:

If it can't be expressed mathematically, it can't occur in nature? [Heisenberg]
Mathematics is part of science; transfinite mathematics I take as mostly uninterpreted [Quine]
Nearly all of mathematics has to quantify over abstract objects [Quine]
Science requires more than consistency of mathematics [Putnam]
Indispensability strongly supports predicative sets, and somewhat supports impredicative sets [Putnam]
We must quantify over numbers for science; but that commits us to their existence [Putnam]
It is spooky the way mathematics anticipates physics [Weinberg]
Actual measurement could never require the precision of the real numbers [Bostock]
Physics requires the existence of properties, and also the abstract objects of arithmetic [Rey]
The application of mathematics only needs its possibility, not its truth [Field,H, by Shapiro]
Hilbert explains geometry, by non-numerical facts about space [Field,H]
Field needs a semantical notion of second-order consequence, and that needs sets [Brown,JR on Field,H]
We must treat numbers as existing in order to express ourselves about the arrangement of planets [Yablo]
Scientists posit as few entities as possible, but set theorist posit as many as possible [Maddy]
Maybe applications of continuum mathematics are all idealisations [Maddy]
If a notion is ontologically basic, it should be needed in our best attempt at science [Schaffer,J]
Mathematics should be treated as true whenever it is indispensable to our best physical theory [Friend]