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[filed under theme 27. Natural Reality / C. Space / 5. Relational Space ]

Full Idea

The problem of the relational view of space is especially acute in the context of physical theories that take the notion of a field seriously, e.g. classical electromagnetic theory.

Gist of Idea

Relational space is problematic if you take the idea of a field seriously

Source

Hartry Field (Science without Numbers [1980], 4)

Book Ref

Field,Hartry: 'Science without Number' [Blackwell 1980], p.35


A Reaction

In the Leibniz-Clarke debate I sided with the Newtonian Clarke (defending absolute space), and it looks like modern science agrees with me. Nothing exists purely as relations.


The 8 ideas with the same theme [space as entirely the relations between objects]:

If everything is in a place, what is the place in? Place doesn't exist [Zeno of Elea, by Simplicius]
Place is not shape, or matter, or extension between limits; it is the limits of a body [Aristotle]
We can locate the parts of the universe, but not the whole thing [Locke]
Space is an order among actual and possible things [Leibniz]
Relational space is problematic if you take the idea of a field seriously [Field,H]
For relationists moving an object beyond the edge of space creates new space [Le Poidevin]
If space is entirely relational, what makes a boundary, or a place unoccupied by physical objects? [Lowe]
'Space' in physics just means location [Hesketh]