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[filed under theme 21. Aesthetics / A. Aesthetic Experience / 5. Natural Beauty ]

Full Idea

Anyone who tried to divorce the beautiful from man's pleasure in man would at once feel the ground give way beneath him. The 'beautiful in itself' is not even a concept, merely a phrase.

Gist of Idea

The beautiful never stands alone; it derives from man's pleasure in man

Source

Friedrich Nietzsche (Twilight of the Idols [1889], 8.19)

Book Ref

Nietzsche,Friedrich: 'Twilight of the Idols and The Anti-Christ', ed/tr. Hollingdale,R.J. [Penguin 1972], p.78


A Reaction

I love the insult 'not even a concept'! It's like Pauli's 'not even wrong'!


The 14 ideas with the same theme [beauty in people, life and landscape]:

Socrates despised good looks [Socrates, by Plato]
Non-physical beauty can only be shown clearly by speech [Plato]
Stage two is the realisation that beauty of soul is of more value than beauty of body [Plato]
Progress goes from physical beauty, to moral beauty, to the beauty of knowledge, and reaches absolute beauty [Plato]
Nothing contrary to nature is beautiful [Aristotle]
Pentathletes look the most beautiful, because they combine speed and strength [Aristotle]
The most beautiful hand seen through the microscope will appear horrible [Spinoza]
Beauty is a manifestation of secret natural laws [Goethe]
Only self-illuminated perfect individuals are beautiful [Novalis]
Natural beauty is unimportant, because it doesn't show human freedom [Hegel, by Pinkard]
The beautiful never stands alone; it derives from man's pleasure in man [Nietzsche]
Our feeling for natural beauty is different from the aesthetic emotion of art [Bell,C]
We only see landscapes as artistic if we ignore their instrumental value [Bell,C]
Natural beauty reassures us that the world is where we belong [Scruton]