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Single Idea 1839
[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / b. Types of pleasure
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Full Idea
The pains of the soul are worst, for the flesh is only sensible of present affliction, but the soul feels the past, present and future.
Gist of Idea
Pains of the soul are worse than pains of the body, because it feels the past and future
Source
report of Epicurus (fragments/reports [c.289 BCE]) by Diogenes Laertius - Lives of Eminent Philosophers 10.29
Book Ref
Diogenes Laertius: 'Diogenes Laertius', ed/tr. Yonge,C.D. [Henry G. Bohn 1853], p.473
A Reaction
I don't think feeling extended across time is very relevant. What matters is that pains of the soul usually endure far longer than physical suffering.
The
16 ideas
with the same theme
[what types of pleasure are there?]:
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387
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A small pure pleasure is much finer than a large one contaminated with pain
[Plato]
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2157
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Nice smells are intensive, have no preceding pain, and no bad after-effect
[Plato]
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5230
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There are pleasures of the soul (e.g. civic honour, and learning) and of the body
[Aristotle]
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383
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God feels one simple pleasure forever
[Aristotle]
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5270
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Intellectual pleasures are superior to sensuous ones
[Aristotle]
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1839
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Pains of the soul are worse than pains of the body, because it feels the past and future
[Epicurus, by Diog. Laertius]
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1842
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Pleasures only differ in their duration and the part of the body affected
[Epicurus]
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3557
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The end for Epicurus is static pleasure
[Epicurus, by Annas]
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505
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Good and true are the same for everyone, but pleasures differ
[Democritus (attr)]
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521
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We should only choose pleasures which are concerned with the beautiful
[Democritus (attr)]
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1838
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Cyrenaic pleasure is a motion, but Epicurean pleasure is a condition
[Diog. Laertius]
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5271
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Prejudice apart, push-pin has equal value with music and poetry
[Bentham]
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5934
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Of Bentham's 'dimensions' of pleasure, only intensity and duration matter
[Ross on Bentham]
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8096
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He gives his body up to pleasure, but not his soul
[Joubert]
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9196
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The pleasure of existing is the only genuine pleasure
[Hadot]
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7498
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Greeks and early Christians were much more concerned about food than about sex
[Foucault]
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