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Single Idea 18519

[filed under theme 26. Natural Theory / A. Speculations on Nature / 5. Infinite in Nature ]

Full Idea

In a universe containing an infinite number of electrons would mass-energy be conserved? ...Electrons could come and go without affecting the total mass-energy.

Gist of Idea

If there were infinite electrons, they could vanish without affecting total mass-energy

Source

John Heil (The Universe as We Find It [2012], 03.6)

Book Ref

Heil,John: 'The Universe as We Find It' [OUP 2012], p.45


A Reaction

This seems to be a very persuasive reason for doubting that the universe contains an infinite number of electrons. In fact I suspect that infinite numbers have no bearing on nature at all. (Actually, I suspect them of being fictions).

Related Idea

Idea 18518 Infinite numbers are qualitatively different - they are not just very large numbers [Heil]


The 14 ideas with the same theme [time or space or matter could be infinite]:

The gods alone live forever with Shamash. The days of humans are numbered. [Anon (Gilg)]
Archelaus was the first person to say that the universe is boundless [Archelaus, by Diog. Laertius]
Continuity depends on infinity, because the continuous is infinitely divisible [Aristotle]
The heavens seem to be infinite, because we cannot imagine their end [Aristotle]
There are potential infinities (never running out), but actual infinity is incoherent [Aristotle, by Friend]
Totality has no edge; an edge implies a contrast beyond the edge, and there can't be one [Epicurus]
Bodies are unlimited as well as void, since the two necessarily go together [Epicurus]
Unlike Epicurus, Stoics distinguish the Whole from the All, with the latter including the void [Stoic school, by Sext.Empiricus]
There can be no centre in infinity [Lucretius]
The universe must be limitless, since there could be nothing outside to limit it [Lucretius]
An infinite line can be marked in feet or inches, so one infinity is twelve times the other [Spinoza]
If there were infinite electrons, they could vanish without affecting total mass-energy [Heil]
Given atomism at one end, and a finite universe at the other, there are no physical infinities [Brown,JR]
There are probably no infinities, and 'infinite' names what we do not yet know [Rovelli]