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Full Idea
A support for the fittingness account (against the buck-passing reasons account) is the 'wrong kind of reasons' problem. There are many reasons for positive attitudes towards things which are not good. We might admire a demon because he threatens torture.
Gist of Idea
Values from reasons has the 'wrong kind of reason' problem - admiration arising from fear
Source
Francesco Orsi (Value Theory [2015], 1.4)
Book Ref
Orsi,Francesco: 'Value Theory' [Bloomsbury 2015], p.13
A Reaction
[compressed] I like the Buck-Passing view, but was never going to claim that all reasons for positive attitudes bestow value. I only think that there is no value without a reason
Related Ideas
Idea 18669 Values can be normative in the Fitting Attitude account, where 'good' means fitting favouring [Orsi]
Idea 18670 The Buck-Passing view of normative values says other properties are reasons for the value [Orsi]
18666 | Value-maker concepts (such as courageous or elegant) simultaneously describe and evaluate [Orsi] |
18667 | The '-able' concepts (like enviable) say this thing deserves a particular response [Orsi] |
18672 | Values from reasons has the 'wrong kind of reason' problem - admiration arising from fear [Orsi] |
18668 | Truths about value entail normative truths about actions or attitudes [Orsi] |
18670 | The Buck-Passing view of normative values says other properties are reasons for the value [Orsi] |
18669 | Values can be normative in the Fitting Attitude account, where 'good' means fitting favouring [Orsi] |
18677 | A thing may have final value, which is still derived from other values, or from relations [Orsi] |
18680 | To avoid misunderstandings supervenience is often expressed negatively: no A-change without B-change [Orsi] |
18679 | Things are only valuable if something makes it valuable, and we can ask for the reason [Orsi] |
18682 | A complex value is not just the sum of the values of the parts [Orsi] |
18683 | Trichotomy Thesis: comparable values must be better, worse or the same [Orsi] |
18684 | Rather than requiring an action, a reason may 'entice' us, or be 'eligible', or 'justify' it [Orsi] |
18685 | Final value is favoured for its own sake, and personal value for someone's sake [Orsi] |
18686 | The Fitting Attitude view says values are fitting or reasonable, and values are just byproducts [Orsi] |