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Single Idea 18676

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / B. Value / 1. Nature of Value / c. Objective value ]

Full Idea

It is necessary to consider what things are such that, if they existed by themselves, in absolute isolation, we should yet judge their existence to be good.

Gist of Idea

We should ask what we would judge to be good if it existed in absolute isolation

Source

G.E. Moore (Principia Ethica [1903], §112)

Book Ref

Moore,G.E.: 'Principia Ethica' [CUP 1980], p.187


A Reaction

This is known as the 'isolation test'. The test has an instant appeal, but looks a bit odd after a little thought. The value of most things drains out of them if they are totally isolated. The MS of the Goldberg Variations floating in outer space?


The 9 ideas with the same theme [values independent of points of view]:

Keeping promises and contracts is an obligation of natural justice [Cudworth]
For absolute morality a goal for mankind is needed [Nietzsche]
We should ask what we would judge to be good if it existed in absolute isolation [Moore,GE]
The thing is intrinsically good if it would be good when nothing else existed [Ross]
All things being equal, we all prefer the virtuous to be happy, not the vicious [Ross]
The sense of the world must lie outside the world [Wittgenstein]
Saying something 'just is' right or wrong creates an illusion of fact and objectivity [Foot]
Total objectivity can't see value, but it sees many people with values [Nagel]
Values from reasons has the 'wrong kind of reason' problem - admiration arising from fear [Orsi]