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[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / B. Value / 1. Nature of Value / a. Nature of value
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Full Idea
The whole 'being pleased by cats being tortured' is definitely not better, and is likely worse, than cats being tortured. So its value cannot result from a sum of the intrinsic values of the parts.
Gist of Idea
A complex value is not just the sum of the values of the parts
Source
Francesco Orsi (Value Theory [2015], 5.3)
Book Ref
Orsi,Francesco: 'Value Theory' [Bloomsbury 2015], p.86
A Reaction
This example is simplistic. It isn't a matter of just adding 'pleased' and 'tortured'. 'Pleased' doesn't have a standalone value. Only a rather gormless utilitarian would think it was always good if someone was pleased. I suspect values don't sum at all.
The
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[what is desirability or worth in something?]:
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For Aristotle 'good' means purpose, and value is real but relational
[Achtenberg on Aristotle]
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20846
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Prime values apply to the life in agreement; useful values apply to the natural life
[Stoic school, by Diog. Laertius]
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20160
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Kant focuses exclusively on human values, and neglects cultural and personal values
[Kekes on Kant]
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24149
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Values need a perspective, of preserving some aspect of life
[Nietzsche]
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5920
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Value is held to be either a quality, or a relation (usually between a thing and a mind)
[Ross]
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5923
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The arguments for value being an objective or a relation fail, so it appears to be a quality
[Ross]
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20762
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There are no values to justify us, and no excuses
[Sartre]
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19646
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Values don't accumulate; they are ruthlessly replaced
[Cioran]
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21749
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Altruistic values concern other persons, and ceremonial values concern practices
[Quine]
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18681
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The base for values has grounds, catalysts and intensifiers
[Dancy,J, by Orsi]
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20150
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There are far more values than we can pursue, so they are optional possibilities
[Kekes]
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20156
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We are bound to regret some values we never aspired to
[Kekes]
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20158
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Innumerable values arise for us, from our humanity, our culture, and our individuality
[Kekes]
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20159
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Cultural values are interpretations of humanity, conduct, institutions, and evaluations
[Kekes]
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20161
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The big value problems are evil (humanity), disenchantment (cultures), and boredom (individuals)
[Kekes]
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Is valuing something a matter of believing or a matter of desiring?
[Smith,M]
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18666
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Value-maker concepts (such as courageous or elegant) simultaneously describe and evaluate
[Orsi]
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18667
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The '-able' concepts (like enviable) say this thing deserves a particular response
[Orsi]
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18679
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Things are only valuable if something makes it valuable, and we can ask for the reason
[Orsi]
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18682
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A complex value is not just the sum of the values of the parts
[Orsi]
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18683
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Trichotomy Thesis: comparable values must be better, worse or the same
[Orsi]
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18685
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Final value is favoured for its own sake, and personal value for someone's sake
[Orsi]
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The Fitting Attitude view says values are fitting or reasonable, and values are just byproducts
[Orsi]
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We can treat value as a verb; we value something when we positively engage with it
[Cochrane]
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