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Single Idea 18729

[filed under theme 12. Knowledge Sources / B. Perception / 4. Sense Data / d. Sense-data problems ]

Full Idea

There is no need of a theory to reconcile what we know about sense data and what we believe about physical objects, because part of what we mean by saying that a penny is round is that we see it as elliptical in such and such conditions.

Gist of Idea

Part of what we mean by stating the facts is the way we tend to experience them

Source

Ludwig Wittgenstein (Lectures 1930-32 (student notes) [1931], C III)

Book Ref

Wittgenstein,Ludwig: 'Lectures in Cambridge 1930-32', ed/tr. Lee,Desmond [Blackwell 1980], p.69


A Reaction

This is an interesting and cunning move to bridge the gap between our representations and reallity. We may surmise how a thing really is, but then be surprised by the sense-data we get from it.


The 19 ideas with the same theme [difficulties with the concept of sense-data]:

We cannot assume that the subject actually exists, so we cannot distinguish sensations from sense-data [Russell]
My 'acquaintance' with sense-data is nothing like my knowing New York [Williams,M on Russell]
Individuating sense-data is difficult, because they divide when closely attended to [Russell]
Sense-data may be subjective, if closing our eyes can change them [Russell]
There are no raw sense-data - our experiences are of the sound or colour of something [Heidegger]
Part of what we mean by stating the facts is the way we tend to experience them [Wittgenstein]
As sense-data are necessarily private, they are attacked by Wittgenstein's objections [Wittgenstein, by Robinson,H]
We are not conscious of pure liquidity, but of the liquidity of water [Firth]
Sense-data are dubious abstractions, with none of the plausibility of tables [Quine]
Do sense-data have structure, location, weight, and constituting matter? [Chisholm]
Sense-data are a false objectification of what is essentially subjective [Nagel]
We experience qualities as of objects, not on their own [Harré/Madden]
The Homunculus Fallacy explains a subject perceiving objects by repeating the problem internally [Evans]
Sense data can't give us knowledge if they are non-propositional [Williams,M]
Sense-data are rejected because they are a veil between us and reality, leading to scepticism [Robinson,H]
If we smell something we are aware of the smell separately, but we don't perceive a 'look' when we see [Crane]
The problems of perception disappear if it is a relation to an intentional state, not to an object or sense datum [Crane]
The 'disjunctive' theory of perception says true perceptions and hallucinations need have nothing in common [Lowe]
Sense-data are only safe from scepticism if they are primitive and unconceptualised [O'Grady]