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Single Idea 18841

[filed under theme 6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 4. Axioms for Number / e. Peano arithmetic 2nd-order ]

Full Idea

It is Dedekind's categoricity result that convinces most of us that he has articulated our implicit conception of the natural numbers, since it entitles us to speak of 'the' domain (in the singular, up to isomorphism) of natural numbers.

Clarification

'Categoricity' means any two models are isomorphic (i.e. they match)

Gist of Idea

Categoricity implies that Dedekind has characterised the numbers, because it has one domain

Source

comment on Richard Dedekind (Nature and Meaning of Numbers [1888]) by Ian Rumfitt - The Boundary Stones of Thought 9.1

Book Ref

Rumfitt,Ian: 'The Boundary Stones of Thought' [OUP 2015], p.267


A Reaction

The main rival is set theory, but that has an endlessly expanding domain. He points out that Dedekind needs second-order logic to achieve categoricity. Rumfitt says one could also add to the 1st-order version that successor is an ancestral relation.


The 23 ideas from 'Nature and Meaning of Numbers'

Dedekind proved definition by recursion, and thus proved the basic laws of arithmetic [Dedekind, by Potter]
Dedekind defined the integers, rationals and reals in terms of just the natural numbers [Dedekind, by George/Velleman]
Ordinals can define cardinals, as the smallest ordinal that maps the set [Dedekind, by Heck]
Order, not quantity, is central to defining numbers [Dedekind, by Monk]
Dedekind's ordinals are just members of any progression whatever [Dedekind, by Russell]
Dedekind's axiom that his Cut must be filled has the advantages of theft over honest toil [Dedekind, by Russell]
Dedekind says each cut matches a real; logicists say the cuts are the reals [Dedekind, by Bostock]
Dedekind gives a base number which isn't a successor, then adds successors and induction [Dedekind, by Hart,WD]
Zero is a member, and all successors; numbers are the intersection of sets satisfying this [Dedekind, by Bostock]
Categoricity implies that Dedekind has characterised the numbers, because it has one domain [Rumfitt on Dedekind]
Induction is proved in Dedekind, an axiom in Peano; the latter seems simpler and clearer [Dedekind, by Russell]
Dedekindian abstraction talks of 'positions', where Cantorian abstraction talks of similar objects [Dedekind, by Fine,K]
Dedekind has a conception of abstraction which is not psychologistic [Dedekind, by Tait]
Dedekind said numbers were abstracted from systems of objects, leaving only their position [Dedekind, by Dummett]
In counting we see the human ability to relate, correspond and represent [Dedekind]
Numbers are free creations of the human mind, to understand differences [Dedekind]
Dedekind originated the structuralist conception of mathematics [Dedekind, by MacBride]
An infinite set maps into its own proper subset [Dedekind, by Reck/Price]
Dedekind originally thought more in terms of mereology than of sets [Dedekind, by Potter]
A thing is completely determined by all that can be thought concerning it [Dedekind]
We have the idea of self, and an idea of that idea, and so on, so infinite ideas are available [Dedekind, by Potter]
A system S is said to be infinite when it is similar to a proper part of itself [Dedekind]
We derive the natural numbers, by neglecting everything of a system except distinctness and order [Dedekind]