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Single Idea 18892

[filed under theme 9. Objects / E. Objects over Time / 10. Beginning of an Object ]

Full Idea

It seems essential that you come from your gametes. Suppose (for reductio) that I come from Nixon's actual gametes. Now add my actual gametes to that possible world, and suppose they become an adult. Which has the stronger title to be me?

Clarification

'gametes' are sperm and egg

Gist of Idea

Suppose a world where I'm from different gametes; add my gametes; which one is more me?

Source

Colin McGinn (On the Necessity of Origin [1976], p.132), quoted by Nathan Salmon - Reference and Essence (1st edn) 7.25.5

Book Ref

Salmon,Nathan: 'Reference and Essence (2nd ed)' [Prometheus 2005], p.209


A Reaction

[See Nathan Salmon 1981:209] Feels like the Ship of Theseus. You say 'that's Theseus Ship', until the rival ship appears around the headland. Confusion. If Nixon's gametes can produce McGinn, the second gametes could produce a Nixon! Then what?


The 9 ideas with the same theme [coming-to-be of a substance or object]:

Substance is not created or destroyed in mortals, but there is only mixing and exchange [Empedocles]
Does the pure 'this' come to be, or the 'this-such', or 'so-great', or 'somewhere'? [Aristotle]
Philosophers have worried about coming-to-be from nothing pre-existing [Aristotle]
The substratum changing to a contrary is the material cause of coming-to-be [Aristotle]
If a perceptible substratum persists, it is 'alteration'; coming-to-be is a complete change [Aristotle]
Coming-to-be may be from nothing in a qualified way, as arising from an absence [Aristotle]
Generation is when local motions aggregate to become a single subject [Nicholas of Autrecourt]
Suppose a world where I'm from different gametes; add my gametes; which one is more me? [McGinn]
Weak ex nihilo says it all comes from something; strong version says the old must partly endure [Pasnau]