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Single Idea 18968

[filed under theme 19. Language / D. Propositions / 6. Propositions Critique ]

Full Idea

The trouble with propositions, as cognitive meanings of eternal sentences, is individuation. Given two eternal sentences, themselves visibly different linguistically, it is not sufficiently clear under when to say that they mean the same proposition.

Gist of Idea

The problem with propositions is their individuation. When do two sentences express one proposition?

Source

Willard Quine (Propositional Objects [1965], p.140)

Book Ref

Quine,Willard: 'Ontological Relativity and Other Essays' [Columbia 1969], p.140

A Reaction

If a group of people agree that two sentences mean the same thing, which happens all the time, I don't see what gives Quine the right to have a philosophical moan about some dubious activity called 'individuation'.

The 15 ideas with the same theme [rejection of the existence of propositions]:

6094 An inventory of the world does not need to include propositions [Russell]
6096 I no longer believe in propositions, especially concerning falsehoods [Russell]
21712 I know longer believe in shadowy things like 'that today is Wednesday' when it is actually Tuesday [Russell]
21724 The main aim of the multiple relations theory of judgement was to dispense with propositions [Russell, by Linsky,B]
7534 In 1906, Russell decided that propositions did not, after all, exist [Russell, by Monk]
13989 There are no propositions; they are just sentences, used for thinking, which link to facts in a certain way [Ryle]
13982 If we accept true propositions, it is hard to reject false ones, and even nonsensical ones [Ryle]
2610 Talk of propositions is just shorthand for talking about equivalent sentences [Ayer]
9007 It makes no sense to say that two sentences express the same proposition [Quine]
9008 There is no rule for separating the information from other features of sentences [Quine]
9010 We can abandon propositions, and just talk of sentences and equivalence [Quine]
18968 The problem with propositions is their individuation. When do two sentences express one proposition? [Quine]
3968 Propositions explain nothing without an explanation of how sentences manage to name them [Davidson]
12150 Indexicals reveal big problems with the traditional idea of a proposition [Perry]
6631 If propositions are abstract entities, how can minds depend on their causal powers? [Lowe]