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Single Idea 19592

[filed under theme 26. Natural Theory / A. Speculations on Nature / 4. Mathematical Nature ]

Full Idea

Musical relations seem to me to be actually the basic relations of nature.

Gist of Idea

The basic relations of nature are musical

Source

Novalis (Last Fragments [1800], 10)

Book Ref

Novalis: 'Philosophical Writings', ed/tr. Stoljar,M.M. [SUNY 1997], p.154


A Reaction

Novalis shows no signs of being a pythagorean, and then suddenly comes out with this. I suppose if you love music, this thought should float into your mind at regular intervals, because the power of music is so strong. Does he mean ratios?


The 14 ideas with the same theme [mathematics is the essence of reality]:

Pythagoreans say things imitate numbers, but Plato says things participate in numbers [Pythagoras, by Aristotle]
For Pythagoreans the entire universe is made of numbers [Pythagoras, by Aristotle]
When musical harmony and rhythm were discovered, similar features were seen in bodily movement [Pythagoras, by Plato]
Pythagoreans define timeliness, justice and marriage in terms of numbers [Pythagoras, by Aristotle]
Pythagoreans think mathematical principles are the principles of all of nature [Pythagoras, by Aristotle]
Everything must involve numbers, or it couldn't be thought about or known [Philolaus]
Harmony must pre-exist the cosmos, to bring the dissimilar sources together [Philolaus]
There is no falsehood in harmony and number, only in irrational things [Philolaus]
Pythagoreans say the whole universe is made of numbers [Aristotle]
The tektraktys (1+2+3+4=10) is the 'fount of ever-flowing nature' [Sext.Empiricus]
To understand the universe mathematics is essential [Galileo]
All the sciences searching for order and measure are related to mathematics [Descartes]
Minds unconsciously count vibration beats in music, and enjoy it when they coincide [Leibniz]
The basic relations of nature are musical [Novalis]