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Single Idea 19966

[filed under theme 24. Political Theory / D. Ideologies / 5. Democracy / c. Direct democracy ]

Full Idea

It is essential to fix the number of citizens who can participate in assemblies. Otherwise it would be uncertain whether all the people had spoken, or only a part of it. At Sparta the number was fixed at ten thousand.

Gist of Idea

A democratic assembly must have a fixed number, to see whether everyone has spoken

Source

Baron de Montesquieu (The Spirit of the Laws (rev. 1757) [1748], 02.02)

Book Ref

Montesquieu,Baron de: 'Selected Political Writings', ed/tr. Richter,Melvin [Hackett 1990], p.116


A Reaction

This looks like an immediate injustice to the citizen who came 10,001 in the rankings. 10,000 is just a smallish football crowd, so we could manage it today. We could pick the 10,000 by sortition (by lot). Most people are fairly sensible!


The 9 ideas with the same theme [decisions are made by most of the population]:

A good citizen won't be passive, but will redirect the needs of the state [Plato]
Democracy is a legitimate gathering of people who do whatever they can do [Spinoza]
In a democracy the people should manage themselves, and only delegate what they can't do [Montesquieu]
A democratic assembly must have a fixed number, to see whether everyone has spoken [Montesquieu]
In a direct democracy, only the leaders should be able to propose new laws [Rousseau]
Direct democracy is inexperience judging experience, and ignorance judging knowledge [Mill]
Groups should be autonomous, with a neutral authority as arbitrator [Russell]
You don't really govern people if you don't involve them [Reybrouck]
Teledemocracy omits debate and deliberation, which are important parts of good decisions [Swift]